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Comment on YSK: Non-violent protests are 2x likely to succeed and no non-violent movement that has involved more than 3.5% of the country population has ever failed

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D_C@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

There’s two basic options for change here. Defiance, and violence.
The defiance would have to be so ongoing it could not be ignored by drumpf and his cronies.
And the violence will have to be so well planned and extreme (eg: wholescale assassinations) it would make the nazi republican politicians actually fear for their lives as they don’t give a shit about anything else.

That’s the only two real options for change. Long and ongoing defiance, or quick short controlled violence.

However this is all moot as I am convinced neither will happen.
The us people haven’t the will to do the ‘necessary’ violence, and will only do a protest here and there until they’ve accepted this is their new normal and go back to their existence.

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prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

And the violence will have to be so well planned and extreme (eg: wholescale assassinations) it would make the nazi republican politicians actually fear for their lives as they don’t give a shit about anything else.

I’m curious as to what you think comes after this?

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- D_C@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  ~~>
  
  I’m curious as to…
  
  …Fucking delusional.~~
  
  If you ask nicely I’ll tell you.
  
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  - prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Aww honey, I’m sorry.
    
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  - Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    No you won’t.
    
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hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Also I’d say that peaceful and violent aren’t binary. Like, there’s standing somewhere holding signs without being distruptive, then there’s civil disobedience like blocking traffic without being actually violent, then there’s protests where protestors will use violence to defend themselves if they have to without actively seeking to engage in violent acts, and then there’s straight up rioting, where people go out their way to attack people, or smash windows or burn cars and shit.

And, of course, it varies from person to person. If there’s protest X happening, one person could think of is as violent (or call it violent as a way of propaganda) while one person wouldn’t.

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