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lupusblackfur@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• 14th_cylon@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  it is not just US… the VSE - Prague’s university of economics and business has decided to abandon graduation theses, because it is supposedly “impossible to verify” whether they were written by student or AI, and replaced them with “hands-on” graduation project)

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  • uranibaba@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “hands-on” graduation project

    Does hand-on mean supervised?

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    • 14th_cylon@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      no, it means they will try to somehow apply the knowledge they acquired to real life problem. creating a project, instead of writing a text.

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  • Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    well how would you verify wether a thesis was written by AI? Mind that accusations are a serious matter, so “i guess it sorta looks like AI” or a percent number spat out by some unreliable LLM-detection AI isnt going to cut it

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    • 14th_cylon@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      well, not sure if it works the same everywhere in the world, but here, you first write the graduation thesis and then you have to publicly defend it.

      if the defense committee (or is it an attack committee, since it is the student who is on defense? :D) can’t ask questions in a way to find out whether the student actually wrote the paper and understands the topic, then what fucking pseudo-scientific field is that? (and the answer indeed is - it is economics 😂)

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      • danzabia@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Then the student could just ask the AI to simulate a thesis defense and learn answers to the most likely questions.

        The funny thing is, they would actually learn the material this way, through a kind of osmosis. I remember writing cheat sheets in college and finding I didn’t need it by the end.

        So there are potential use cases, but not if the university doesn’t acknowledge it and continues asking for work that can be simply automated.

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    • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      from what ive seen on some reddit posts, they USE AI to accuse the student of writing in AI.

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  • Lodespawn@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Jesus how bad are their student papers that they can’t tell whether an AI wrote one?!

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    • 14th_cylon@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      more like “how bad is the education”?

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      • Lodespawn@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Well that’s a much better question.

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    • danzabia@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Students are now prompting the AI to make it sound like a student wrote it, or putting it through an AI detector and changing the parts that are detected as being written by AI (adding typos or weird grammar, say). Even kids who write their own papers have to do the latter sometimes.

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    • mineralfellow@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Perfect grammar and slightly unusual words in a paragraph. Could be a weird formulation from a student’s mind, could be AI. No way to really know.

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      • Lodespawn@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If the peer review are unable to differentiate between student output and AI output then they are either incompetent or they are inundated with absolute garbage. The latter also suggests the former is true.

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    • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      the professors are using AI to sniff out AI.

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      • Lodespawn@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah given the quality of AI outputs they could just read the papers to spot it … you know … do their jobs? I mean there’s a few layers here for thesis review, you supervisor, your professor, the other peer reviewers. They are all supposed to review the paper and at least some of the data that led to its production.

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• Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  i graduated just before the fuckery, and they were at the forefront of using software/weeding out software for jobs already. when i was HS, students already had given up on doing homework, and they were passing people with failing/D grades to graduation.

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• etchinghillside@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s fine… I’m sure we’ll have UBI anytime now. We’ll have AI working on it.

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• chunes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There are people who want to do their own thinking and those who don’t. The ratio hasn’t changed much over time. Only the possibilities.

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