Yeah that’s absolutely how they lure people in. Sensible issues to be concerned about, starts out normal, then about two links of thought in, the tinfoil hats come out and the solution is fucking nuts.
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brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 weeks agoBoth can be true.
It can be true that the FDA was corrupted/broken to some extent and needs more ‘skeptial’ and less-industry-friendly leadership, while at the same time, skepticism in science is not the answer.
This is my dillema with MAGA. Many of the issues they tackle are spot on, even if people don’t like to hear that. They’re often right, even if the proposed solutions are problematic or even damaging.
thesohoriots@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Jarix@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What are the issues they are “right” about?
limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
That election companies cannot be trusted, but the deniers were careful to not approach this scientifically or convincingly. Offering instead pseudo science and illogical schemes done by madmen. Because of this they set back the paper vote movements by decades in some states.
Another thing that draws them followers is that tens of thousands of small towns have died economically, in the last three decades, but no programs to help them, and no sympathy in the large cities
Jarix@lemmy.world 1 week ago
How are they right about election fraud? Specifically voting.
Gerrymandering is a disgusting in the US, but that’s not election companies, that’s politicians not the bound companies.
Dominion has been cleared of the fraudulent claims so that doesn’t hold up as evidence
limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
So many states have problems with exit polls being correct , that all the major broadcasters and news agencies, in the USA, stopped using them a few years ago to predict many races.
Exit polls are used elsewhere reliably to detect large scale manipulation of ballots, and have been used by the United Nations. They used to work in the USA
Mail in ballot counting is reliable. This leaves electronic ballots as the only means to change that many votes. Indeed, if you look at states that use more traditional methods of counting their exit polls generally are accurate.
In addition many states fail other statistical tests that are also used to detect cheating in the primaries for both parties and general races.
Based on statistical tests that have been accepted worldwide for generations there is cheating happening. This is ignored by both parties and the vast majority of people .
In my opinion nothing was proved that these counting companies have accurate results. This is because most of what they do is hidden by trade secrets. And the USA has a lack of recounts that do not use these very systems.
Jarix@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Tens of thousands?
As of 2018, there are 19,495 incorporated cities, towns and villages in the United States. 14,768 of these have populations below 5,000. Only ten have populations above 1 million and none are above 10 million. 310 cities are considered at least medium cities with populations of 100,000 or more.
limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
Unincorporated towns in Texas is 4k, I would guess the number of very unincorporated is a ratio of 2:1 nation wide I am not sure.
But using some rough math , and being incredibly stubborn to prove my point, that brings the total number up to 60k, of which 1/3 ( maybe) have seen economic hardship
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
This is such an important thing to note. The MAGA set aren’t completely oblivious. It’s the same issue with how they don’t trust “mainstream media,” the problem doesn’t lie in accepting that media must be viewed with skepticism and critical thinking, the problem lies with the critical thinking ending at "I can’t trust the mainstream media.
What the MAGAs are actually practicing is cynicism not skepticism. They have thrown the baby out with the bathwater. Because they have realized some sources aren’t always entirely trustworthy, they stop trusting them entirely and instead listen to random jackholes on the internet. It’s actually an abdication of critical thinking. Just flat out rejection instead of reading with a critical eye and skeptical mind.
taladar@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
They also don’t apply the same attitude to those random sources they use instead. That is really the biggest problem with their approach. Literally going “you can’t trust anyone any more” would be better than what they do.