Comment on The lengths we have to go to

ipha@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ll take the curly braces

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  • TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Me too, any day. I hate everything where indentation matters. Let me just throw my garbage there and YOU sort it out, you are the fucking computer, not me. You do the work.

    So fuck you, YAML! All my homies love JSON!

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    • KIM_JONG@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      All your homies hate comments.

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      • TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        My code also documents itself, of course.

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      • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah Yaml is nicer than json, but I’m not into the Python indenting at all.

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      • JonEFive@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’m here to spread the good word about JSONC. It is the way and everyone should adopt it in place of JSON wherever possible.

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  • wols@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yup.

    Spaces? Tabs? Don’t care, works regardless.
    Copied some code from somewhere else? No problem, 9/10 times it just works. Bonus: a smart IDE will let you quick-format the entire code to whatever style you configured at the click of a button even if it was a complete mess to begin with, as long as all the curly braces are correct.

    Also, in any decent IDE you will very rarely need to actually count curly braces, it finds the pair for you, and even lets you easily navigate between them.

    The inconsistent way that whitespace is handled across applications makes interacting with code outside your own code files incredibly finicky when your language cares so much about the layout.

    There’s an argument to be made for the simplicity of python-style indentation and for its aesthetic merits, but IMO that’s outweighed by the practical inconvenience it brings.

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But, nobody ever copies code from Stack Overflow!

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• 30p87@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Even vim can show you that
  ^(fucking nano user)

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  • UndefinedIsNotAFunction@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There’s a joke here about using echo “some python code” > main.py in here somewhere but I can’t find it. Imagine I did instead.

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    • grozzle@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “the punchline is clearly trivial, the set-up is left as an exercise for the reader”

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    • thanevim@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Import python.Joke.ShellProgramming()

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  • Overshoot2648@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Obligatory mirco is better.

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    • 30p87@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Is mirco a little man sitting on your SSD flipping bits manually as you dictate him?

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      • lud@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        No that’s macro. Micro is when small gnomes sit inside your HDD and moving the read/write head around manually.

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• kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  if you have to count the curly braces I understand why you are a python developer

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• Knusper@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You don’t usually count them. They just have to form a neat diagonal.

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  • Reptorian@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Also, highlighted the way you expect when you click next to braces works too.

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• cerement@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  parentheses

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• shotgun_crab@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Why not both

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  • EvokerKing@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Because Python uses indentation instead of curly brackets, which is why this meme exists. Also jetbrains ide s like pycharm and webstorm do all of this for you.

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    • mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Even the mosy basic text editors does indentation for you, not even an IDE needed

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      • EvokerKing@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Not as good as jetbrains does, it automatically does things like realign when you paste things and lots of little things that improve the coding experience by a lot.

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• vosjedev@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  yep.

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• fidodo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Have you tried using an auto formatter? Let’s you write code however and fixes the structure automatically on save. It’s way easier for me to write curly braces then hit ctrl+s than have to select multiple lines manually and tab in and out. I feel the biggest gains I’ve made in productivity came after I learned to embrace tooling.

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