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cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 5 days agoParenthesis, exponents, multiplication, division, addition, subtraction.
should actually be
Parenthesis, exponents, (multiplication and division), (addition and subtraction).
Addition and subtraction are given the same priority, and are done in the same step, from left to right.
It’s not a great system of notation, it could be made far clearer (and parenthesis allow you to make it as clear as you like), but it’s essentially the universal standard now and it’s what we’re stuck with.
iglou@programming.dev 5 days ago
No, it should simply be "Parenthesis, exponents, multiplication, addition.
A division is defined as a multiplication, and a substraction is defined as an addition. I am so confused everytime I see people arguing about this, as this is basic real number arithmetics that every kid in my country learns at 12 yo, when movong on from the simplified version you learn in elementary school.
13igTyme@lemmy.world 5 days ago
You want PEMA with knowledge of what is defined, when people can’t even understand PEMDAS. You wish for too much.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
I hate most math eduction because it’s all about memorizing formulas and rules, and then memorizing exceptions. The user above’s system is easier to learn, because there’s no exceptions or weirdness. You just learn the rule that division is multiplication and subtraction is addition. They’re just written in a different notation. It’s simpler, not more difficult. It just requires being educated on it. Yes, it’s harder if you weren’t obviously, as is everything you weren’t educated on.
Mistic@lemmy.world 5 days ago
That’s because they aren’t teaching math. They’re teaching “tricks” to solve equations easier, which can lead to more confusion.
Like the PEMDAS thing that’s being discussed here. There’s no such thing as “order of operations” in math, but it’s easier to teach that there is.
iglou@programming.dev 5 days ago
I’m just confused as to how that is not common knowledge. The country I speak of is France, and we’re not exactly known for our excellent maths education.