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• SmartmanApps@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What’s lazy about learning PEMDAS?

  Nothing. Only people who don’t know what they’re talking about say that.

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• barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Learning the actual algebraic laws, instead of an order of operations to mechanically replicate. PEMDAS might get you through a standardised test but does not convey any understanding, it’s like knowing that you need to press a button to call the elevator but not understand what elevators are for.

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  • Halosheep@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This guy is the the guy posting the answer and then spending hours fighting the idiots who got it wrong on Facebook.

    Nerd.

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    • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      x/0 is the set {+inf,-inf}, fite me IRL.

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  • AbidanYre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Is it also lazy to learn Roy G. Biv to know the color spectrum instead of learning all the physics and optical properties behind that?

    Or My Very Elderly Mother Just Served Us Nine Pickles to know the planets instead of learning orbital dynamics and astrophysics?

    Christ man, it’s a mnemonic device for elementary schoolers.

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    • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Those two things are memorisation tasks. Maths is not about memorisation.

      You are not supposed to remember that the area of a triangle is a * h / 2, you’re supposed to understand why it’s the case. You’re supposed to be able to show that any triangle that can possibly exist is half the area of the rectangle it’s stuck in: Start with the trivial case (right-angled triangle), then move on to more complicated cases. If you’ve understood that once, there is no reason to remember anything because you can derive the formula at a moment’s notice.

      All maths can be understood and derived like that. The names of the colours, their ordering, the names of the planets and how they’re ordered, they’re arbitrary, they have no rhyme or reason, they need to be memorised if you want to recall them. Maths doesn’t, instead it dies when you apply memorisation.

      Ein Anfänger (der) Gitarre Hat Elan. There, that’s the Guitar strings in German. Why do I know that? Because my music theory knowledge sucks. I can’t apply it, music is all vibes to me but I still need a way to match the strings to what the tuner is displaying. You should never learn music theory from me, just as you shouldn’t learn maths from a teacher who can’t prove a * h / 2, or thinks it’s unimportant whether you can prove it.

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      • SmartmanApps@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Maths is not about memorisation

        It is for ROTE learners.

        You are not supposed to remember that the area of a triangle is a * h / 2

        Yes you are. A lot of students get the wrong answer when they forget the half.

        you’re supposed to understand why it’s the case

        Constructivist learners can do so, ROTE learners it doesn’t matter. As long as they all know how to do Maths it doesn’t matter if they understand it or not.

        You’re supposed to be able to show that any triangle that can possibly exist is half the area of the rectangle it’s stuck in

        No they’re not.

        If you’ve understood that once, there is no reason to remember anything because you can derive the formula at a moment’s notice.

        And if you haven’t understood it then there is a reason to remember it.

        you can derive the formula at a moment’s notice

        Students aren’t expected to be able to do that.

        All maths can be understood and derived like that

        It can be by Constructivist learners, not ROTE learners.

        The names of the colours, their ordering, the names of the planets and how they’re ordered, they’re arbitrary

        No they’re not. Colours are in spectrum order, the planets are in order from the sun.

        Maths doesn’t, instead it dies when you apply memorisation

        A very substantial chunk of the population does just fine with having memorised Maths.

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      • AbidanYre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        What fundamental property of the universe says that

        6 + 4 / 2 is 8 instead of 5?

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  • dohpaz42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You might be smart, but you’re still wrong about the importance of order of operations; especially in algebra.

    As far as teachers go, you’re being a dick by generalizing all (US) teachers are lazy and do not understand math.

    Pro tip: opinions are like assholes; you too have one, and yes it too stinks.

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    • SmartmanApps@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You might be smart

      Smart-arse more like. A serial troll who doesn’t actually know what they’re talking about.

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  • baines@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    just say you like the smell of your own farts, it would be less text for us to read for the same result

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• datavoid@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I’m a BEDMAS man myself

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