Comment on Plex now will SELL your personal data
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days agoYeah, the sad reality is that Plex’s setup experience is much smoother. And when you’re trying to convert people, the single largest obstacle is often social inertia. So lowering the barriers to entry is extremely important. My mother-in-law would need to sideload the Jellyfin app onto her TV, but Plex is available right on its app store.
Luckily, you can run both side by side. Jellyfin for me and my more tech-literate friends, Plex for those who don’t know/don’t care to learn.
For me it’s a trade-off: yes Plex is less good than Jellyfin from a data/cost perspective. But so far the UI of Plex (which is not perfect mind you), availability of Plexamp (which honestly is very very good), and the fact that I don’t have to pay for it anymore after buying lifetime swings the scale towards Plex for me.
If Plex somehow canceled my lifetime or forced ads on my shows or something, that would be a line — but making me opt out of selling my data is not that line for me.
Different taste on the UI front I guess. I thought the default Plex was awful, couldn’t stand it. Jellyfin can be a bit messy though
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
I have read many people say this, but I don’t understand what they mean by it. When I set up Jellyfin, it was a very simple process.
RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 3 days ago
Simplicity is relative to each person’s abilities and the tool in question.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Apparently all your friends and family are comfortable with hostnames ip addresses. Not everyone’s are. Also, not everyone wants to buy a static ip or setup a dynamic dns service or similar. Plex is definitely simpler. I have used both.
pipes@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
I understand this but we have to realize that what makes Plex simpler is the fact that they are a network intermediary that does what it wants with your home networks; it’s like insisting that NordVPN is better than Mullvad
IMHO the only solution will be improving wireguard guis and stuff, Jellyfin is not lacking.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
I haven’t used Plex, so I’m not exactly sure what it’s doing, but I’m guessing it presents you some sort of search to find the server? Isn’t that pretty much the same as a domain name, just w/ a search bar instead of a URL bar? If your domain is easy to remember, I guess I don’t see an issue. I’ve also heard you can connect to multiple servers, so maybe that’s what people are talking about.
Regardless, I think Jellyfin could handle both. Get some community-funded STUN relay servers to handle discovery and implement a way (if it doesn’t already) to have your client connect to multiple servers. There should also be a way to copy all the configs from one client to another (say, a QR code or UUID, settings copied over the same STUN server).
My main issue is that this could open up servers to more potential attack vectors, and Jellyfin already has some security weaknesses. But other than that, I’d be happy to help implement this sort of thing, a STUN server can be run on as little as a $5 VPS.
borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
I wonder if having a “sign in” page within jellyfin that just fronts a wireguard configuration panel, saves the creds, and automatically connects and routes app traffic over the vpn iface is a remotely viable idea.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Off topic, but what? Is Nord doing wacky shit with network settings?
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I mean pretty much everyone I know uses web browsers and sometimes type in web addresses lol
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You seem a little out of touch with how people think.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Excuse me, I thought the comment I replied to was talking about the setup process of the jellyfin server itself.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Well yeah maybe that too, but a server no one connects to is a paperweight. The connection part confuses laypeople
brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
Setting up a server? Pretty darn easy.
Teaching all your friends and relatives to figure out what app to use and login with your dyndns random entry or IP address. Or even more difficult, using VPN.
It’s not the hosting that’s hard. It’s the watching for non-tech people.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Maybe I’m just callous but I just don’t see that as a problem myself. If I’m offering my own self hosted services for friends or family, the least they can do is put in some effort to learn how to use it. If they couldn’t bother, that is their loss.
AtariDump@lemmy.world 3 days ago
If people operate a car, the least they could do is learn how to change their brakes or do an oil change.
To most non-tech people, that’s the level of complexity you’re expecting them to adhere to.
Bongles@lemm.ee 3 days ago
“Grab an app called jellyfin, type in this number, pick the profile with your name, password is X”
It’s not that different than “Grab an app called plex, here’s the username and password, pick the profile with your name” (or sign up yourself and I’ll share it with you)