The whole “they need to get permission!” thing makes no sense. When I watch an MKBHD video I don’t need to get his permission to learn from him. I don’t need his permission to learn from his style. I don’t need permission from an artist to learn from their art style, their brush stroke technique, their colour science. I just look at it, watch it, read about it, and I learn. I can then use what I learned to make new stuff and there is nothing that they can, or should be able, to do about it.
The same applies for AI. AI isn’t recreating the material that it is trained from - it’s “learning” from it. It doesn’t take the Mona Lisa as training material and then output the Mona Lisa.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 10 months ago
sounds like japan might be desperate for the lack of anime workers.
nyan@lemmy.cafe 10 months ago
Much of the animation takes place outside Japan these days. If you watch enough anime end credits, you’ll see a lot of what look like romanized Vietnamese names. And there was a scandal . . . about a year ago now? . . . when some material for an anime then in production was found on the server of a North Korean studio (probably because a Chinese studio to which the anime had been outsourced then outsourced it further without paying attention to little things like international treaties). And I don’t think the teams remaining in Japan have any shortage of recruits.
This issue, as with any business, is “can AI produce more for cheaper at an acceptable quality?” If it does make real inroads, it’ll be the outsourcing studios doing the less-important scenes that get replaced first.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The genre itself has become neutered, too. A lot of anime series have the usual “anime elements” and a couple custom ideas. And similar style, too glossy for my taste.
OK, what I think is old and boring libertarian stuff, I’ll still spell it out.
The reason people are having such problems is because groups and businesses are de facto legally enshrined in their fields, it’s almost like feudal Europe’s system of privileges and treaties. At some point I thought this is good, I hope no evil god decided to fulfill my wish.
There’s no movement, and a faction (like Disney with Star Wars) that buys a place (a brand) can make any garbage, and people will still try to find the depth in it and justify it (that complaint has been made about Star Wars prequels, but no, they are full of garbage AND have consistent arcs, goals and ideas, which is why they revitalized the Expanded Universe for almost a decade, despite Lucas-<companies> having sort of an internal social collapse in year 2005 right after Revenge of the Sith being premiered ; I love the prequels, despite all the pretense and cringe, but their verbal parts are almost fillers, their cinematographic language and matching music are flawless, the dialogue just disrupts it all while not adding much, - I think Lucas should have been more decisive, a bit like Tartakovsky with the Clone Wars cartoon, just more serious, because non-verbal doesn’t equal stupid). OK, my thought wandered away.
Why were the legal means they use to keep such positions created? To make the economy nicer to the majority, to writers, to actors, to producers. Do they still fulfill that role? When keeping monopolies, even producing garbage or, lately, AI slop, - no. Do we know a solution? Not yet, because pressing for deregulation means the opponent doing a judo movement and using that energy for deregulating the way everything becomes worse. Is that solution in minimizing and rebuilding the system? I believe still yes, nothing is perfect, so everything should be easy to quickly replace, because errors and mistakes plaguing future generations will inevitably continue to be made. The laws of the 60s were simple enough for that in most countries. The current laws are not. So the general direction to be taken is still libertarian.
Is this text useful? Of course not. I just think that in the feudal Europe metaphor I’d want to be a Hussite or a Cossack or at worst a Venetian trader.