Comment on It's Breathtaking How Fast AI Is Screwing Up the Education System

SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• dejpivo@lemmings.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  How is this kind of testing relevant anymore? Isn’t it creating an unrealistic situation, given the brave new world of AI everywhere?

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  • DoPeopleLookHere@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because it test what you actually retained, not what you can convince an AI to tell you.

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    • FourWaveforms@lemm.ee ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      But what good is that if AI can do it anyway?

      That is the crux of the issue.

      Years ago the same thing was said about calculators, then graphing calculators. I had to drop a star class and take it again later because the dinosaur didn’t want me to use a graphing calculator.

      Naturally they were all full of shit.

      But this? This is different. AI is currently as good as a graphing calculator for some engineering tasks, horrible for some others, excellent at still others. It will get better over time. And what happens when it’s awesome at everything?

      What is the use of being the smartest human when you’re easily outclassed by a machine?

      If we get fully automated yadda yadda, do many of us turn into mush-brained idiots who sit around posting all day? Everyone retires and builds Adirondack chairs and sips mint juleps and whatever? (That would be pretty sweet. But how to get there without mass starvation and unrest?)

      Alternately, do we have to do a Butlerian Jihad to get rid of it, and threaten execution to anyone who tries to bring it back… only to ensure we have capitalism and poverty forever?

      These are the questions. You have to zoom out to see them.

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      • Natanael@infosec.pub ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Because if you don’t know how to tell when the AI succeeded, you can’t use it.

        To know when it succeeded, you must know the topic.

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      • DoPeopleLookHere@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        but what good is that if AI can do it anyway?

        It can’t. It just fucking can’t. We’re all pretending it does, but it fundamentally can’t.

        appleinsider.com/…/apples-study-proves-that-llm-b…

        Creative thinking is still a long way beyond reasoning as well. We’re not close yet.

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      • HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If you want to compare a calculator to an LLM, you could at least reasonably expect the calculator result to be accurate.

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  • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What do you think testing is for? It’s to show what you know/have learned

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    • Skellysgirl@lemm.ee ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Education and learning are two different things. School tests are to repeat back what has been educated to you. Meaningful learning tends to be internally motivated and AI is unlikely to fulfill that aspect.

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      • MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        This is the purpose of essay questions.

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• ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I really hope I’m dead before we have androids.

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