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sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

literally just make the development experience on Windows less painful so people don’t switch to another OS.

You said it right there yourself and don’t seem to realize it.

Why have a laptop or a dual boot with Linux when you can now more easily stay on the proprietary OS ?

This is called market retention.

Preventing migration to another OS, another software ecosystem.

The ‘Embrace’ and ‘Extend’ parts of EEE.

And if it works, then in a few years, MSFT will figure out how to further monetize some other part of its software ecosystem that is either reliant on, or much much easier for an average user of WSL to use.

Call that EEM for ‘monetization’ if you want, or ‘enshittifying’ for another E…

…the commonly used term to describe software or services or platforms that suddenly jump over to making previously free stuff cost money, put ads everywhere, break the previously free features and put the ‘new’ working versions behind some kind of paywall…

… All after you’ve captured your market and dominated as many competitors as possible.

Standard monopolist strategy throughout the entite history of capitalism, same general concept goes back even further.

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FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
You: “Let me explain Embrace, Extend, Extinguish to you”

Also you: clearly doesn’t understand what Embrace, Extend, Extinguish actually was

Microsoft aren’t trying to change Linux with proprietary things that only work on WSL. That would be EEE. Microsoft are just letting you run Linux inside Windows, so people who need or want Linux can do it on their Windows machine instead of also needing a Linux machine.

This won’t stop anyone who hates Windows from using a Linux machine, because this is inside Windows.

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The_Decryptor@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Why have a laptop or a dual boot with Linux when you can now more easily stay on the proprietary OS ?

This is called market retention.

Preventing migration to another OS, another software ecosystem.

The ‘Embrace’ and ‘Extend’ parts of EEE.

That’s stretching the definition to the point it’s nearly unrecognisable.

What the term meant was for things like Internet Explorer, where MS adopted an existing standard (Embrace), started changing it in incompatible ways (Extend), while using their market power to lock out competitors (Extinguish)

e.g. IE used an incompatible method for sizing and laying out elements than any other browser, so a site that laid out properly in NN4 looked broken in IE6, and vise versa. So most devs targeted IE6 as it was more popular, and NN4 users got more and more broken sites.

ACPI was similar, Windows had an extremely lax implementation of it, so motherboards often shipped with bugs that Windows would ignore but would stop anything else from booting. Intentional? Doesn’t really matter, since it sure was helpful in slowing the adoption of things like Linux, that had to come up with workarounds for all the broken hardware.

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- sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Linux is a standard they have Embraced.
  
  As a for-profit tech monopolist, they will, very predictably, Extinguish the ability of people who use WSL instead of just actually Linux… to be easily able to… fully transition to a competitor (Linux).
  
  The Extend part just looks different, because the scope of software competition offered by Linux is much more vast than just a particular standard for a particular kind of software.
  
  … Potato, potato.
  
  I used to work for Microsoft.
  
  The ethos is absolutely still there: Create vendor lock in, create ecosystem dependence in every way possible, as well as in ways that 99% of people would not even think are possible.
  
  EEE is just the term they came up with to describe their own, overarching, monopolist general strategy, and if you wanna quibble over the precise technicalities of an internal corporate slogan, well then you’d be the kind of person MSFT is filled with that made me no longer want to work for them.
  
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