If you count Gohan, Trunks, 17, 18, and Tien as humans, which they all are to some degree, he’s def not the strongest of his species. He is way up there though, and 7th place isn’t even close, but special K is for sure not the strongest.
Maybe. I’m pretty sure Tien mopped the floor with him in DB, but that was a long time ago. I don’t think either of them have enough feats in Super to definitively say who would win, but Tien is consistantly more dedicated to training and has an even trickier arsenal of techniques, so I’d put my money that ways.
And being half human is still being human. That’s genetic diversity, which is not cheating.
I am not enough of an Otaku to have this debate to any sort of conclusion; I’ll take your word for it. I do have one question though: if we discount the Saiyan hybrids and androids, what puts Tien over the top?
Gohans half saiyan, 17 and 18 use infinite energy cybernetics for their combat power - none are comparable to Krillin.
Tien though, totally. Toriyama has come out and said Krillin is the strongest human (I believe), so he either forgot about Tien or were just supposed to understand that Krillin is stronger than him despite Tien being far more dedicated to training and facing down bigger threats.
Jsyk, the androids don’t have infinite power. This idea comes from a mistranslation and it’s actually that they always function at maximum power with deep reserves rather than having an endless supply of ki.
Agreed on the rest though. They are not comparable. My true point was that human is human. They are all human in different ways and to deny that just because some of them aren’t fully human reminds me of blockhead ideas about race and race mixing. Saiyans and androids are on another level altogether though and that’s hard to deny.
And I would 100% buy that Toriyama forgot about Tien just like he forgot about Launch lol. It was kind of a running pattern in his career to forget minor details here and there
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
He’s still the strongest human alive. By Terrestrial standards, he’s indestructible.
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Master Roshi ain’t dead yet.
baatliwala@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No one dies in Dragonball anyway lol
ICastFist@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Kinda funny because even those that can’t be resurrected anymore tend to find a way to fight among the living
kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If you count Gohan, Trunks, 17, 18, and Tien as humans, which they all are to some degree, he’s def not the strongest of his species. He is way up there though, and 7th place isn’t even close, but special K is for sure not the strongest.
zaphodb2002@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
C’mon Tien? K Dog would hose him. Destructo Disc his three-eyed ass in half. But yeah the robots and the half-Saiyans don’t count, that’s cheating.
kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Maybe. I’m pretty sure Tien mopped the floor with him in DB, but that was a long time ago. I don’t think either of them have enough feats in Super to definitively say who would win, but Tien is consistantly more dedicated to training and has an even trickier arsenal of techniques, so I’d put my money that ways.
And being half human is still being human. That’s genetic diversity, which is not cheating.
xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
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dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I am not enough of an Otaku to have this debate to any sort of conclusion; I’ll take your word for it. I do have one question though: if we discount the Saiyan hybrids and androids, what puts Tien over the top?
kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Three eyes = 150% as cool and that’s all I’ve got tbh
notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Gohans half saiyan, 17 and 18 use infinite energy cybernetics for their combat power - none are comparable to Krillin.
Tien though, totally. Toriyama has come out and said Krillin is the strongest human (I believe), so he either forgot about Tien or were just supposed to understand that Krillin is stronger than him despite Tien being far more dedicated to training and facing down bigger threats.
kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Jsyk, the androids don’t have infinite power. This idea comes from a mistranslation and it’s actually that they always function at maximum power with deep reserves rather than having an endless supply of ki.
Agreed on the rest though. They are not comparable. My true point was that human is human. They are all human in different ways and to deny that just because some of them aren’t fully human reminds me of blockhead ideas about race and race mixing. Saiyans and androids are on another level altogether though and that’s hard to deny.
And I would 100% buy that Toriyama forgot about Tien just like he forgot about Launch lol. It was kind of a running pattern in his career to forget minor details here and there