All men are trash.
I’m probably considered feminism-critical, I think feminism can’t solve men’s issues and people who believe feminism is for everyone are dipshits peddling propaganda.
All men are trash.
If you can’t handle the fact that there’s an inherent shittiness to masculinity which women experience directly and painfully, you’re not a real man and should man up about it.
No, I am not.
There is nothing inherent about how we live our lives or experience the world. The violence the more vulnerable class of folks experience is a direct result of just that: class inequality. You may as well believe in phrenology given the shit you’re spewing.
Better an ass than a weak man.
Lmao, right? Not a single postive or even neutral post, just endless waves of bile and vitriol. Sadly, a lot of progressives have managed to convince themselves that being a raging hatemonger will somehow magically create a better world.
Yeah, especially trans men! They suuuuck! Just kidding, men are the greatest. Nice poem, though. Great job.
What is the “inherent shittiness” that masculinity has that directly effects women painfully?
Found the man triggered by women who prefer the bear.
Time for some class solidarity ?
And here I was going to say “no one says ‘all men are trash’”, and yet here you are: A complete fucking idiot.
I’ve seen so many people say some variety of “all men are trash” or “kill all men”, some of which in contexts where I do think it was offensive and counter-productive.
You’re actively in denial about the deserved reputation problem feminism has if you seriously thought that no one ever says this.
We let you all vote and this is how you act. Jeez
TheFriar@lemm.ee 22 hours ago
All people with blue eyes are trash. All curly haired people are trash. All women are trash. All brown skinned people are trash.
See how fucking stupid that statement is? I thought those of us with a brain learned that generalizing is fucking stupid. The others are bigots. Because generalizing an entire group of people with one common trait is what bigots do.
Impassionata@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
I am more willing to admit that it’s possible to be racist against white people than I am willing to admit that “all men are trash” is somehow punching down.
I don’t literally mean that every single man is a piece of trash, you know.
TheFriar@lemm.ee 50 minutes ago
It’s not about punching up or down. It’s about generalizations. It helps literally no one, and the group it helps the least is feminists. Have you noticed the huge uptick in the toxic “alpha male” influence in younger generations? It is a direct response to the absolute bungling of a good message: feminism.
When conversations become global or even national or regional, the dumbest take is what is easiest to spread. “All men are trash” is the idiot’s version of the much more nuanced point, “women have historically been held down and overlooked in our patriarchal society, and have suffered at the hands of men-at-large in an outsized and much more devastating way than men have ever suffered at women’s hands or at those of men-at-large.”
The most simplistic answer can always be explained with a more nuanced explanation, but the problem is it needs to be explained. When people say “men are garbage,” the more nuanced and complicated message behind the overly simplistic and eye-catching hyperbole isn’t what’s spreading. It’s the dumbed down version of the message. And when the dumbed down version is hurtful or unfair, you’re not getting people to agree with you.
So if what you care about is women, you’re doing a terrible job. Because spreading “men are garbage” is directly responsible for the popularity of people like Andrew Tate. Young boys don’t know the context, but they see messages like “men are garbage” repeated by seemingly respectable adults. What’s their response? To think, “hmm, I should look into the historical context of women suffering at the hands of the patriarchy!” No, they are immediately upset and defensive, and when that idiotic message seems like it’s systemic, they will flock to spaces where assholes are telling them, “No, women are worthless garbage who should be making you sandwiches, king!”
So unless you love Andrew Tate and his ilk, I’d stfu on that stupid shit, if I were you.
Impassionata@lemmy.world 37 minutes ago
I agree with you there, but blaming feminism for the decisions men make isn’t excusable.
Men at large tune this Democrat shit out and your inability to process the fact that the way Democrats relate to politics is inherently broken because they believe in long sentences is your problem to accept.
But I’m not trying to get everyone to agree with me, I’m shoving the weak man above into being more reasonable about keeping men responsible for their own behavior and not deflecting to what those mean sjws said. Men have to be able to tell other men to ‘man up.’
So if what you care about is women, you’re doing a terrible job.
curiousaur@reddthat.com 21 hours ago
Racist.
You must be a man.