Comment on Nearly 5 years in, PS5 sales remain neck-and-neck with PS4 | VGC

• fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Well the alternative is PC gaming, and building a competitive PC aint cheap. I remember on launch people were building computers with similar performance to the xbone/ps4. But now that entry level dGPUs aren’t a thing, and even mid range GPUs are expensive you get fucked either way.

  The PS5 is at least powerful on launch. The 4 was on par with like a regular APU.

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  • endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Mini pcs are a thing and they get better every year.

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  • frezik@midwest.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If you’re not too stuck on modern AAA titles, PC gaming is cheap. Possibly the cost of the electricity coming out of the wall.

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  • sparky1337@ttrpg.network ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It used to be easy to build a PC that was double the performance of a console for the same price. And it was even easier if you sourced slightly used current hardware. Now you’re lucky to get last gen hardware for a decent price used. The market is garbage.

    Back in 2014 you could get brand new motherboards for ~$50, where it’s difficult to find any under $150 that provide decent features. I think the most expensive thing at the time was NAND due to flooded factories but everything else was super cheap.

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  • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You know, I just finished building my machine the other day. And yeah it wasn’t cheap, but if you’re willing to forgo Nvidia… It’s actually a lot more affordable than you think. The new AMD’s smoke too.

    $1700 all in. 9800x3d, 9070, aorus b650 board, 32gb ram, 2TB SSD, 850w be quiet PSU, a case that’s a bit too big with lots of airflow and built in fans. If I had gone with a 7xxx cpu and shaved other parts down i could’ve easily gotten it down to $1400. Less if I went with a previous gen GPU.

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    • VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Personal anecdote. My PC cost me £900 in 2017. I haven’t upgraded it since. I have saved a significant amount of money in that time that would otherwise have been spent on PlayStation Plus for the benefit of playing multiplayer and the general higher price of games.

      Even if you accept the argument that consoles are significantly cheaper in the first place, the point that PC ownership saves money in the long run is often overlooked.

      I’ve never owned as many games for as little cost as I do now.

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      • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And the games that really demand the high-end hardware tend to be pretty rare in the grand scheme of things, not to mention less likely to be as good as the low spec games. I always joke with my friends that I might buy a killer new PC in the next year or so, but my most-played game will still be a 2D game from 2012 that absolutely doesn’t need it.

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    • Carnelian@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      A certified refurbished ps5 can be had right at this moment for $399, $450 new. I game on PC for many other reasons but the performance for value is pretty amazing on the ps5

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      • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I agree. I was a console guy until this past weekend. My series S was money well spent, like my PS4 before it!

        However, I have a way bigger library now with cheaper games (also hundreds of free ones because I share a family library with other big gamers on Steam), it plays and looks better, and in 5+ years I’ll still be rocking AAA games long after the PS5 has sunset.

        I am actually a big defender of console gaming. It has a place and can be a very affordable option, especially when Nvidia cards are literally thousands of dollars. But PC gaming is often more economical in the long run if you throw down more upfront and do your research.

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      • Eheran@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You can also buy a used PC or laptop or CPU/GPU/…, buying them new when you want good performance for value is nonsense.

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  • Damage@feddit.it ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Building a PC that can compete with current console IS cheap

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    • endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Entry can exceed the cost of the console but if you upgrade your existing one, especially using used gpus it is dirt cheap.

      Now factor in:

      • pc games online stores are cheaper, there are more opportunities for good deals. Usually 5-10 eur off a game.
      • you are not an idiot who pays for the internet twice, 80 eur a year. -pc game stores have better deals as console ones usually refuse to let the price down for a looong time since they have no competition
      • you are sonys bitch by owning a ps5 and you are not elegible for any refunds. Saving you tons of money since every pc game store lets you refund for any reason within a time window.

      and even a pc double the cost of a ps5 will be cheaper very quickly.

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  • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I think more and more people have done the math on what your break-even is with a PC up front compared to noncompetitive digital console storefronts, needless forced obsolescence, and subscription fees.

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• SolidShake@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I haven’t payed to play online in years. Like mid PS4 life. Online only games don’t require a subscription.

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