There’s a war going on.
A war of ideas.
Comment on Are We All Becoming More Hostile Online?
shaggyb@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Here’s the thing.
The last 10 years have proven that organized online hostility is VERY EFFECTIVE at dictating public opinion.
That’s how we got the new fascist movements. Trump and the like. Because right wing hostility and bigotry went not only unchecked institutionally but unchallenged socially.
No solution has emerged for that from an institutional level.
So yeah, my socialist ass is fighting back. I’ll be damned if I’m going to spend the rest of my life under these fucking wastes of flesh and their bullshit antiquated opinions. I’m done taking it and I’m done tolerating it. Fuck every last republican and homophobe and transphobe and complicit liberal. All of them. And wouldn’t you know it, little by little they’re backing down when we stand up to them like the cowards they are.
Yes, I am deliberately far more hostile online, because it WORKS. And clearly nobody with institutional control cares enough to try anything else.
gradual@lemmings.world 3 days ago
1984@lemmy.today 3 days ago
The only problem is that you guys call everyone a transphone or homophobe or liberal or whatever, all the time. Its actually a bit funny because you dont see the forest for the trees. Everyone has to think exactly the same or they are THE ENEMY and need to be keyboard warriored into compliance with right-think :)
_core@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Cmformity of thought, belief, or action isn’t the problem. The oroblem is treating some people or groups as less than human and not deserving of equal rights and opportunities.
AA5B@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The problem is these are the people who won’t get there, plus they’re harming a lot of people in the meantime.
Codger mode ….
Back when I was a wee young’un, I lived in a small town in a rural area. Republicans ideals made sense (whose not to like fiscal prudence), we read about the crime ridden horrors of big cities, read about the inbred fear of education down south, read about drugs destroying peoples lives, read about welfare queens, read about illegal immigrants and crime. We “weren’t racist” but those dark skin people were violent criminals. Products of our environments I guess.
Like you, I grew up. As I was exposed to a larger variety of people, I discovered they were people. As I saw more people in situations outside their control, I developed more empathy. As I got to know people with different preferences than mine, I learned their preferences didn’t do me any harm. Now decades later, it’s hard to understand the fear, oppression, racism, hatred, and it’s impossible to understand the unethical inconsistent self serving authoritarians that Republicans have become. I’ve seen it too. I apologize to everyone I hurt because it took years for me to grow into a better human being.
The problem is these are the people who never grew out of it. They’re the people who saw their friends and family expand their horizons, but retreated ever deeper into their holes. Theyre the people who saw progress and desperately yearned for a mythical past that never was. They’re the people who saw everyone else growing out of their limitations, and turned to extremism. They are not joining everyone else but have turned their backs and headed the other directions. They are the diehards wallowing in their misery who don’t care about anyone else’s misery. They are the righteous who have lost their way, cloaking their hatred, spite and corruption is self-righteous desperation. They are the self-centered stealing from society and stealing from the future. They are the limited viewpoint building ever higher walls rather than venturing out. They won’t change.
ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Respectfully, you have no idea what you’re talking about. I live in Texas and I am surrounded by the conservative mindset. There is a chittering madness about these people that causes them to frenzy any time something triggers them as being “woke” or “trans” or in any way challenging to their narrow world-view. They cannot be reasoned with, I have tried far too long with no effect. Their beliefs are couched in white christonationalism and the stupid masses having their stupid beliefs vindicated by bad actors in positions of power.
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Counterpoint: call out bigotry or fuck off
1984@lemmy.today 2 days ago
You know, there oneliners may sound cool when you are a teenager, but they are signs of a mind who thinks in absolutes, because there is no wisdom yet.
It will come through life and getting older. :)
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Nah. Can almost guarantee I would have been on your side when I was your age.
Almacca@aussie.zone 2 days ago
Apart from anything, spending all that energy resisting change that’s coming anyway must be exhausting. It’s no wonder they’re so cranky.
shaggyb@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yeah, things don’t work that way everywhere.
We tried being nice in America. It got us here.
You just go back to enjoying your ivory tower. We have actual problems here and your high road is not the solution.
1984@lemmy.today 2 days ago
How did you try being nice? You have a war on everything… Drugs, freedom, privacy… Im honestly not sure how you see yourself as being nice…
High road? Im also not sure how you took the high road. Im genuinely interested, maybe my perspective here is completely wrong.
shaggyb@lemmy.world 2 days ago
All of those things you mentioned were right wing power grabs.
Taking the high road was letting that shit become mainstream.
AA5B@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Some of those were well intended over reactions.