He approved of an appointment Trump made, and criticized Dem on the issue – doesn’t make him a Trump supporter. If we can’t tell the Dems off when we think the GOP does better, how can we proceed?
Scrollone@feddit.it 3 days ago
Proton = Trump support
So no for me.
jsomae@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
anachrohack@lemmy.world 2 days ago
People aren’t criticizing him because ehe criticized the democrats. They’re criticizing him because the things he said are actually fucking braindead retarded
jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
Can you explain?
doodledup@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I’d use their VPN even if Hitler made it. It’s private, secure and their stand to their values with respect to that. Why would I care about political views? Politics don’t change the service on a technical level.
elrecoal19_1@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Except politics, actually, can change the service. For example, surrendering data in secret. Or installing backdoors.
Not that I think Proton is gonna do that (or at least hope so), but thinking “why would I care about politics, they don’t affect the app on a technical level” is incredibly naive and potentially incorrect.
With an over-the-top example, it’s kinda like saying “why should I care about the politics of my landlord after they support the “Increase Tenant’s Rent” party, it doesn’t change the service”
doodledup@lemmy.world 2 days ago
If your threat model depends of political idiologies then you should reconsider youe threat model.
anachrohack@lemmy.world 2 days ago
If a person signals loyalty to a criminal government which is violating the rights of its people daily, why would I trust them not to cooperate with that government when they ask for a backdoor to be installed? Conservatives are simply not trustworthy
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 2 days ago
Unless the governance structure agrees to it they can’t and even the we vaj sue them for abusing a Swiss non profit
suite403@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Fuuuuck.
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 3 days ago
This article goes into it some more, please pick your own opinion: medium.com/…/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-d…
unicorn710@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
This article keeps getting posted but it really just shows the author doesn’t understand the issue that was presented. It goes as far as brushing of the criticism almost immediately. Truth is Proton decided they would publicly praise a running fascist leader for goodboy points
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 3 days ago
Proton didn’t decide anything, Andy Yen posted ONE tweet and then doubled down on it with the Proton Reddit account which was deleted.
I know the US is really into this “us vs them” or Republicans against the Democrats or whatever you want to and that is fair, that’s how US policies sadly work which is also one of the reasons why the country is basically corrupt. For most people agreeing with one statement a politician made doesn’t mean anything. I can agree with some things Geert Wilders said, but that doesn’t mean Ill vote for him.
There are other articles about the whole situation, but I believe that the Tweet says more than the bullshit some people have been shouting on every post regarding Proton. Share the Tweet yes, but don’t share the bullshit.
pool_spray_098@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Thanks for sharing this!
It really does appear that the “Proton is MAGA” thing is just quote taken out of context nonsense.
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 3 days ago
Yeah no problem, everybody is allowed to make their own decisions, but I feel like everybody should at least see the actual Tweet.
medgremlin@midwest.social 3 days ago
Yeah, my 2 year plan is up in June. I haven’t decided what I’m switching to. I’ve heard good things about Mullvad’s privacy policies and politics, but I’ve also seen reviews that a bunch of sites and services have them blocked.
I’m open to suggestions at this point.
uawarebrah@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Mullvad is the gold standard
jmf@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Except that Mullvad is hostile to the torrent infrastructure since there is no port forwarding. No thanks!
medgremlin@midwest.social 3 days ago
That’s what I’ve been seeing. I don’t use Netflix anyways and I mostly just have a VPN for when I’m on a university or hospital campus and I’d like to keep my internet usage private. (Or when sailing the high seas for books.)
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 3 days ago
Proton itself never directly commited on anything from Trump in a positive way.
Their current CEO Andy Yen posted this Tweet. Yes he is an idiot and even doubled down on it with the Proton account Now I am not from a country with a 2 party system, but last time I checked agreeing with one statement from somebody doesn’t mean you support them. Heck finding common ground is often a way to find compromises.
Do what you want and don’t support them if you don’t want them, but don’t act like the company Proton is a Trump supporter. Heck there are a lot of articles on the Proton site which are pro privacy and pro consumer.
booly@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Andy Yen went out of his way to criticize Democrats on antitrust, which is how you can tell it’s actually a pro-Trump position unsupported by the actual facts.
I like Gail Slater. She’s possibly the best choice among people who Trump likes, to head DOJ’s Antitrust Division. She has bipartisan bona fides.
But to say that Democrats, after 4 years of Lina Khan leading the FTC, and a bunch of the reforms that the Biden FTC and DOJ made to merger standards and their willingness to sue/seek big penalties for antitrust violations, aren’t more serious than Republicans about reining in big tech consolidation and about stronger enforcement of antitrust principles, completely flips around the history and is a bad faith argument.
Andy Yen could’ve praised Gail Slater, and that would be that. Instead, he took a post by Trump that didn’t even mention Democrats, and made it about how the Democrats are bad on taking on big tech. That’s the problem everyone had with it.
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 3 days ago
Well yeah he did support a Trump statement and went out of his way to do it. Later stupidly doubled down on it by using the official response.
But, and this might be because I am not American and live in a country where politics aren’t so black and white, but I fail to see how that means you are a MAGA nut/Trump supporter or what not. Especially not because he hasn’t taken action (will be hard to do anyway since he is not American).
And there is a strong governance structure with Andy Yen only having 33% power on final says since he is 1 of 3 people in the Proton Foundation which is the shareholder of the Proton company.
anachrohack@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Name some policies of Adolf Hitler that you support
LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 days ago
Anti Democrat does not mean pro Republican/trump. I personally hate both but the latter much more.
anachrohack@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The statement he out out was literally pro-republican. He said the Republicans are better on tech policy than democrats, which is straight up retarded
sudneo@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Andy praised Gail Slater publicly, and they even worked together.