Comment on People Are Losing Loved Ones to AI-Fueled Spiritual Fantasies

Geodad@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Humans are irrational creatures that have brief and transitory states where they are capable of more ordered thought. It is our mistake to reach a conclusion that humans are rational actors while we marvel daily at the irrationality of others while remaining blind to our own.

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  • Kyrgizion@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Precisely. We like to think of ourselves as rational but we’re the opposite. Then we rationalize things afterwards. Even being keenly aware of this doesn’t stop it in the slightest.

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    • CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Probably because stopping to self analyze your decisions is a lot less effective than just running away from that lion over there.

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      • MangoCats@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s a luxury state: analysis; whether self or professionally administered on a chaise lounge at $400 per hour.

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  • MangoCats@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Self awareness is a rare, and valuable, state.

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• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yep.

  And after enough people can no longer actually critically think, well, now this shitty AI tech does actually win the Turing Test more broadly.

  Why try to clear the bar when you can just lower it instead?

  … Is it fair, at this point, to legitimately refer to humans that are massively dependant on AI for basic things… can we just call them NPCs?

  I am still amazed that no one knows how to get anywhere around… you know, the town or city they grew up in? Nobody can navigate without some kind of map app anymore.

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  • Geodad@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    can we just call them NPCs?

    They were NPCs before AI was invented.

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    • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Dehumanization is happening often and fast enough without acting like ignorant, uneducated, and/or stupid people aren’t “real” people.

      I get it, some people seem to live their whole lives on autopilot, just believing whatever the people around them believe and doing what they’re told, but that doesn’t make them any less human than anybody else.

      Don’t let the fascists win by pretending they’re not people.

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      • Geodad@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Dehumanizing the enemy is part of any war, otherwise it’s more difficult to unalive them. It’s a tribal quality, not a fascist one.

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  • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Haha I grew up before smartphones and GPS navigation was a thing, and I never could navigate well even with a map!
    GPS has actually been a godsend for me to learn to navigate my own city way better. Because I learn better routes in first try.

    Navigating is probably my weakest “skill” and is the joke of the family. If I have to go somewhere and it’s 30km, the joke is it’s 60km for me, because I always take “the long route”.

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• dryfter@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t know if it’s necessarily a problem with AI, more of a problem with humans in general.

  Hearing ONLY validation and encouragement without pushback regardless of how stupid a person’s thinking might be is most likely what creates these issues in my very uneducated mind. It forms a toxically positive echo-chamber.

  The same way hearing ONLY criticism and expecting perfection 100% of the time regardless of a person’s capabilities or interests created depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation and attempts specifically for me. But I’m learning I’m not the only one with these experiences and the one thing in common is zero validation from caregivers.

  I’d be ok with AI if it could be balanced and actually pushback on batshit crazy thinking instead of encouraging it while also able to validate common sense and critical thinking. Right now it’s just completely toxic for lonely humans to interact with based on my personal experience. If I wasn’t in recovery, I would have believed that AI was all I needed to make my life better because I was (and still am) in a very messed up state of mind from my caregivers, trauma, and addiction.

  I’m in my 40s, so I can’t imagine younger generations being able to pull away from using it constantly if they’re constantly being validated while at the same time enduring generational trauma at the very least from their caregivers.

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  • Geodad@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m also in your age group, and I’m picking up what you’re putting down.

    I had a lot of problems with my mental health thatbwere made worse by centralized social media. I can see hoe the younger generation will have the same problems with centralized AI.

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