Comment on Court ruling bars Apple from charging 27% commission on purchases outside the App Store

• theherk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  That this completely true observation has twice the downvotes than upvotes highlights this community’s views on Apple.

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  • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    1. No one was talking about Mac.

    2. XBOX is not a workstation. The only thing you’d want to install on it is games. That’s like, the whole point.

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    • theherk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Imagine if Microsoft banned Windows users from downloading software outside the Microsoft store.

      That was comparing desktop OS to mobile OS, which is why the person to which I replied pointed out this is different than macOS.

      On your second point, neither is iOS a workstation, and one could just as easily say, “The only thing you’d want to install is mobile apps.” Okay but the problem isn’t the type of apps, it is the source of those apps. So either you should be able to get application / games from multiple sources or not.

      If you think those initial downvotes were due to some pedantic distinction about workstation, and not because somebody indirectly implied that Microsoft and Apple were on similar footing in this regard, fine.

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      • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        That was comparing desktop OS to mobile OS

        It doesn’t matter. The point stands.

        neither is iOS a workstation

        Yes it is. It’s a general computing device. The XBOX is a dedicated gaming device.

        Okay but the problem isn’t the type of apps

        As far as this discussion, it very much is.

        So either you should be able to get application / games from multiple sources or not.

        You absolutely should be able to on all platforms, but some are more important than others and comparing them like they’re all the same makes no sense.

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  • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Or we’re just annoyed with random whataboutisms.

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    • theherk@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Imagine if Microsoft banned Windows users from downloading software outside the Microsoft store.

      Imagine if Microsoft required all Software developers to give them 30% of their income or be banned from Windows

      They were replying to the comparison to Windows. What are you on about?

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      • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Mm yeah, I probably missed that while scrolling

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    • yallspark@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s not random. It’s a direct comparison, but people like to pretend it’s not.

      I would argue I should be able to buy any game without Xbox marketplace on it.

      That’s where epic is going next.

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• dwazou@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

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  • reddig33@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    This says Xbox has over 60% of global market share:

    gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/…/worldwide/

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    • unautrenom@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Nintendo 0%

      Doubtful. These numbers provided are completely wrong. Back when files where leaked during this very trial, Epic revealed they had 3 to 4 times more players on Playstations than Xboxes everywhere other than the US.

      Accorsing to Statista (accesible on a third party site if you want to avoid registring), Xbox only has 23% of the market (as opposee to PS’s 45% and Nintendo’s 27%).

      I don’t like Microsoft, and I agree sideloading should be a thing on colsoles too, but they definitely do not hold a majority of the console market, let alone a monopoly.

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    • TheMcG@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Tbh I think that data is incredibly misleading. Every single generation of PlayStation has outsold the Xbox of the same generation(yes even the ps3) en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_best-selling_game_cons….

      Additionally looking at the faq for that site it appears to get its data via page views. What % of console users actually use the browser? Is bet very few. Especially when you consider the ps5 has no built in browser.

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    • dwazou@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Fair enough.

      I think hardware companies should be banned from jailing their users, unless the users specifically ask to.

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  • GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Noe does iOS, Android has the vast majority of the smartphone market

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      A duopoly doesn’t require a 50/50 market share. It simply requires them to be the only real options and, they are the only options.

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• echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Microsoft bans Xbox users from downloading unlicensed software.

  I’m curious what that would even look like. The only thing you can install on an Xbox is Xbox games, why are you getting the Xbox games from if not the official publisher?

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