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• CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It’s been a long time since I read any of the bible, but wasn’t there some story in it somewhere where some guy uses that and is immediately killed by god or something? (albiet I think the justification was some sort of tradition obligating him to have a child with a specific person, and his behavior was supposed to be exploiting that without fulfilling his end or something like that).

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  • andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Onan was punished because he was trying to fuck over Tamar. Tamar was his brother’s wife, and died. Because women had essentially no rights or property, it was expected that a widow without children would be given to her husbands brother, so he could knock her up and have a son to take care of her.

    Onan was trying to screw Tamar out of being able to survive - trying to make it so that he would inherit all of his father Judah’s money. God noticed this, and killed him.

    The funny part is the follow up - Judah has another son, but is like “oh shit, this women is cursed. She’s lead to the death of two of my sons, I don’t want to lose the last one.” So he tells her to go hang out with her parents until his son is “ready” - clearly intending to blow her off forever.

    So Tamar eventually catches on, realizes that she’s never getting what’s hers, so dresses up like a temple prostitute and goes to the city. Judah comes across her disguised as a prostitute, and she asks for his family crest as payment for their roll in the hay.

    After this, she becomes pregnant. The elders of the group bring her before Judah, saying “hey, your daughter in law is a massive whore and is pregnant. We’re going to kill her.” He asks her who knocked her up, she produces the crest.

    Judah is then like “oh dang, you got me.” She doesn’t get killed, she gets her inheritance, and is possibly an ancestor of Jesus.

    Really an amazing trickster figure - very reminiscent of Jacob and Esau.

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  • letsgo@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Onan, which is why wanking is called onanism. To me it’s an odd story because it seems more like a social construct than a divine command. So I wonder if it’s been heavily abridged and he died for some other reason that’s been left out and they just said God did it because they wanted to reinforce that construct. If God really had a habit of dropping bodies just for spilling their seed, well, let’s just say there’d be several thousand reasons why I wouldn’t be typing this right now.

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    • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Ancient stories are almost always parabolic. If there’s not a lesson to be made, then it’s not preserved. Recording history only for history’s sake a fairly modern value. So you’re absolutely right. Ancient texts, especially scriptures, tend to attribute things to god whenever it’s convenient for the narrative.

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  • Broadfern@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    That would be Onan, found in Genesis chapter 38.

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  • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    No idea, but wouldn’t be surprised.

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• sylver_dragon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Every sperm is sacred. Every sperm is good. If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

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