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IEatDaGoat@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• SpongyAneurism@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Does therapy actually help you if you know what your problem is?

  Yes, then you’re already steps ahead. For some people, figuring out what the problem is, already takes therapy, but it doesn’t end there. If you know, what the problem is and know how to fix it, you probably don’t need therapy. But if you know what’s wrong but can’t fix it alone, that’s what therapy is for.

  Also knowing that they’re talking to you because it’s their job feels like the whole thing is a lie and a waste of time.

  Only if you somehow follow the idea, that the therapist has to like you. That is not the case. It is their job and that’s okay. You’re also just talking to them because it’s their job. Why would you open up to a stranger otherwise?

  I mean you should get along together somehow, but you don’t have to be friends with your therapist.

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  • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Also one might be aware of the problem but not actually understand the underlying causes.

    One can be a bloody genious and still be unable to self-rationalize one’s way out of certain negative behaviours because they’re driven by things at an emotional level (fear, pleasure, habit, need for approval, low self-esteem and so on), because they became entrenched as behavioural patterns when one was too young to understand any of it (as a child or teenager - it’s not by chance that a lot of Psychology “blames” one’s parents) and because without the distancing that comes from looking at it from the outside with no interest in seeing certain things rather than others (nobody wants to see elements of one’s personality as negative) it’s extremelly hard to spot certain things which for an observant trained outsider are very obvious.

    Also I totally agree that one shouldn’t be going into it wanting the therapist to like you: people who worry about the impression they make on the therapist are likely not being fully open and honest about themselves to him or her, which kinda defeats the point of going to theraphy (if one was 100% perfect and all qualities, why go to theraphy).

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    • Docker_84@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is the problem with Westernised mindset.

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    • KeenFlame@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In fact, the more successfully smart you are and perceived as intelligent, the more likely it is you need therapy deeply

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      • bilouba@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Do you have a source on this claim?

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    • Cock_Inspecting_Asexual@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Me when I explain to my therapist what vore is cus its crucial to the session for whatever reason:

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• GaMEChld@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s just self sabotage talking. Knowing about a problem is step one and it’s what gets you in the door.

  Just because you know you’ve got a broken pipe doesn’t mean you don’t need a plumber, just because you know your car is broken doesn’t mean you don’t need a mechanic, etc. There’s nothing wrong with someone helping you being a job. That doesn’t mean they won’t do that job.

  The main point of therapy is to get you to look at your circumstances in different ways and provide you with coping skills you may not necessarily have developed. You may even be unaware of whatever current maladaptive coping mechanisms you’ve built up over years of just trying to survive. This is where outside professional perspective comes in handy.

  However! That’s not to say therapy is a bulletproof process or that all therapists are good or that every therapist is a good fit for every person. I would liken it to finding your preferred barber or massage therapist or something. Sometimes you just got to try options till something works.

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• kshade@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yes. I knew (or at least thought I knew) what my problems were but needed help with figuring out what to do about them. Finally started seeing someone to help me with that and they did.

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• Barometer3689@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Emotional problems often require solutions that work on the emotion level. In my experience, trying to self it yourself sets you up to try to solve it with rationality. But that often does not work, because the problem is not rational in nature.

  This is where a therapist helps. It helps you to solve the problem at the emotional level. That is something a person cannot do by themselves. Asking for help is way easier than trying to do it all yourself.

  I personally benefit a lot from healthygamer.gg as a stopgap measure. I still needed actual therapy, but this helped me through the rough times.

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• ickplant@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Most of my clients know why they are coming, it’s childhood (or other) trauma. That doesn’t mean they don’t get to have new insights on the topic. Also, while we talk, that’s not my main modality. We do EMDR and similar therapies that actually help people process the trauma. I’ve seen it change lives.

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• Docker_84@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You’ve no clue what therapy can do !!

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• saimen@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Depending on the problem or rather on your model of the psyche. If you are following a depth analytical approach then you need therapy to reenact your problematic relationships or traumatic events in a healing relationship with another person to integrate them into your conscious self even if you already are fully aware of them.

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• skoell13@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yes it actually helps to talk about it and get some outside views onto the topic. Even if you know your issues and possible solutions just talking about it makes one ‘more aware’ of it.

  Think of it similar when studying for a math exam. Looking at a solution and saying to yourself “ahh yes, I know that and that’s how I would also do it” is different from just trying it yourself.

  And yes it’s the other person’s job but they also want to help, that’s why they chose this career. In Germany there are also a few sessions in the beginning just to check if the patient and therapist are ‘compatible’, because if the patient doesn’t feel safe then it doesn’t help as much.

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