Comment on N the digital age, it's going to be harder for ICE agents to hide their identities than it was for Nazis trying to evade justice post WW2.

• ModestCrab@lemmy.wtf ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  That’s so bold of you to assume they’re making the high school bullies do their own paperwork.

  We couldn’t even get them to fill out a single page card for the national crime database.

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  • MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    They will be found through their record of employment.

    Most of their agents are too stupid to understand that they’ll need to go into hiding when this regime falls.

    Take the opportunity now to get their names and faces, so that it’s harder for them to slither away later.

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    • philpo@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      We have meticulously kept personal records for the majority of all SS,SD,Gestapo and for a fair share of Wehrmacht soldiers. And due to the way German records work (mamdatory resident recording offices) and the fact that almost everyone was “involved” (almost all men were either with the SS, the Wehrmacht or other organs or belonged to the small number of people in jobs though important enough to be needes on the home front)the chances for people to actually evade were rather slim. Claiming you were not “not doing anything” wasn’t feasible and claiming you were with a unit that was “not doing anything wrong” was rather hard as well and could easily be disproved when none from that unit knows one. (Not to mention the SS tattoo)

      The issue never were the few guys that made it to South America. The issue was never that people did not know who was a member of the SS or the Gestapo. The issue was that none fucking cared. The US couldn’t care less as long people were staunch anticommunist or helped them otherwise,the UK were a bit more involved but mainly wanted to get their own economy back up so the empire didn’t fall in shambles. The French did have a bit more vigor,but not for long. And the Germans just wanted to “leave shit behind them”.

      And unlike the US we are talking here about a post -facism occupation period. This won’t happen. It will be, if the US will be able to overcome it within the lifetime of the current perpetrators(which, given the technology advances in mass suppression is not necessarily a given) a democratic revolution more like what happened in Spain or Chile. Look how it went there.

      And… unlike paper which is harder to get rid off than people think, data can be deleted within short notice. Just as the last Trump administration did.

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      • MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        You’re having a fundamental misunderstanding of how effective crowd-sourced data collection can be.

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• Kirp123@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  They can just scrub everything before they lose power. Remind me what happened with the phones of the Secret Service when they were investigating Trump?

  They are using Signal as we’ve seen with Leaky Pete. Signal deletes all the info automatically after some time. Since it’s an end to end encrypted messaging app nobody can recover those messages. Not even Signal themselves. Who’s to say they aren’t using in other instances as well.

  And finally, Trump can pardon the lot of them and they will never see justice.

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  • MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    ICE agents have lives away from work.

    There is a zero percent chance that any particular ICE agent does so without someone in their own social sphere know8ng about it.

    Compile the lists.

    The regime will fall.

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  • gamer@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    They are using Signal

    I just had a thought: are the Signal people MAGA? I don’t think these paranoid criminals would be using something outside of their control if they weren’t certain wouldn’t be compromised. I also don’t think they’re competent enough to self-host and distribute up-to-date app binaries to everyone on the team.

    …and if Signal is supporting of MAGA, doesn’t that mean they’re a risk for anyone critical of them? Even if the app is end-to-end encrypted, anyone just downloading the app from an appstore is one automatic update away from being compromised.

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    • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I just had a thought: are the Signal people MAGA?

      I just had a thought: are the shoelace people MAGA?

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• usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Weren’t the Nazis meticulous about their records? The new crop know better than to leave a paper trail

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  • MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    They’re as skilled and aware as the January 6 insurrectionists.

    They’ll all be found, and all will be ratted out by the communities that they’ve harmed.

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    • AntiBullyRanger@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The problem is exactly that. They were ratted. They got pardoned.

      Human traffickers need to be dealt with only one way, and that’s in Yomi.

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• ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Then they’ll still need border guards, soldiers, police, judges. The “good German soldier” myth was created because if every Nazi were to be prosecuted, the nation would be paralysed.

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