there is no objective morality
Objectively false. People in completely different societies (indigenous, uncontacted, etc) have shown that they don’t kill people consequence-free or separated from morality.
one of these days, maybe, you’ll come to realize that there is no objective morality. there is only the winners that decide how everyone else will live. we all get a choice in who those people are.
i choose to live in a world where rational thought dedicated to furthering humanity and ending suffering reigns supreme. the benefits of that world far outweigh the losses that one generation would have to suffer to achieve it. it’s just a simple trolley problem. if you can’t see that, then you are blinded by emotions.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 days ago
Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 3 days ago
even if we all agreed on one thing (which we don’t), it’s still nothing more than a human idea. morality is a concept. it does not exist. THERE IS NO OBJECTIVE MORALITY.
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Wrong. Completely wrong. Look up “honor killings”. Then learn that it is legal and condoned in some places.
DarkMetatron@feddit.org 3 days ago
Oh yes, I am sure that the Nazis back then said the same about cleansing the german nation, the benefits for the Volkskörper outweigh the losses that one generation would have to suffer.
Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 3 days ago
and had i been alive back then, i would have been calling for the extermination of those nazis before they could do the damage they did.
we’re all humans and it’s always been a war. one day you might realize that you have to pick a side.
DarkMetatron@feddit.org 3 days ago
You can’t use the tools and methods of the enemy without becoming the enemy. Trying to build a free society by use of oppression and mass murder is something that is doomed to fail and to turn into the thing it has sworn to fight. One day you might by able to comprehend that.
Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 3 days ago
prove it.
yeah, i see exactly what kind of limp wristed do-nothing you are. you would let the nazis kill your countrymen because ‘fighting them would make you just like them’. i have no respect for cowards and pacifists.
also, i’m 51, so you can fuck right off with your “maybe one day…” - i know more than you. i have more experience than you. i’m wiser than you. show some respect.
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Oh, so EVERYONE who fights in a war is a murderer? Nobody was the good guys in ANY conflict that involved death?
Your ignorance is astounding.