No rights are being removed. If they choose to come to you for free IT support, they are choosing to accept how you set up their devices…
DarkMetatron@feddit.org 2 days ago
Yeah, stripping adult people from some of their basic rights sound like a perfectly fine idea.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 days ago
a4ng3l@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Remember that at a point in time they setup yours…
Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 days ago
Good. If my mental faculties are at the point where I consume and actively seek out disinformation, then someone else should step in.
DarkMetatron@feddit.org 2 days ago
That is not helping or support, that is enforcing your will on someone else in the disguise of help. Oh and I am sure that they will be fully informed about that cost and its implications.
maniclucky@lemmy.world 2 days ago
We can influence the behavior of our loved ones, we can’t meaningfully influence sociopaths corporations. While not feasible, it still feels like the best of a a bunch of shitty options.
DarkMetatron@feddit.org 2 days ago
There is a huge difference between “influence the behavior of our loved ones” and acting as a dictator who censors where the adult and mentally fit loved ones can get their information from.
maniclucky@lemmy.world 2 days ago
See the trick is this: does “mentally fit” apply, even in the case of otherwise mentally healthy individuals? Propaganda can affect anyone and the less tech savvy more so. We have no issues with limiting the physical behavior of the people we care about when they cannot handle it anymore (e.g. we’ll drive grandpa around when he can technically do it, but shouldn’t). While some do kick a fuss about it (for understandable reasons) ultimately, society at large is pretty OK with the whole deal.
Now we have them exposed to content that is arguably harmful to their health and the health of the people around them (e.g. voting). And this isn’t opinion stuff or debates. These are outright lies catered to them. There were no dogs being eaten in Springfield, and yet I could hear the old dudes at my gym discussing it while they walked the mezzanine. At what point does their right to play with their phone cede to their mental health? For anyone really? We cede rights to do things when they harm ourselves and others often. Why is this different?
DarkMetatron@feddit.org 2 days ago
The same can be used to ban alcohol for everyone:
See the trick is this: does “mentally fit” apply, even in the case of otherwise mentally healthy individuals? Addiction can affect anyone and the less tech savvy more so. We have no issues with limiting the physical behavior of the people we care about when they cannot handle it anymore (e.g. we’ll drive grandpa around when he can technically do it, but shouldn’t). While some do kick a fuss about it (for understandable reasons) ultimately, society at large is pretty OK with the whole deal.
Now we have them exposed to substances that are arguably harmful to their health and the health of the people around them (e.g. drug-related crime). At what point does their right to drink alcohol cede to their mental health? For anyone really? We cede rights to do things when they harm ourselves and others often. Why is this different?
So are you ok with a new prohibition
untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
you should realize this is half a joke
DarkMetatron@feddit.org 1 day ago
When someone talks about murdering everyone he doesn’t agrees with, then the joke in my eyes ends.
But yes, I think enough words have been said here, everything else is pointless redundancy.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
It’s better than the alternative. Trust me.
DarkMetatron@feddit.org 2 days ago
So what basic rights should we strip them also? The right to vote? I mean, if they are not capable of making valid decisions about what to watch/read/think then they can’t be capable of making valid decisions to vote! And lets remove Freedom of Speech fully, it only gets misused to enable nasty opinions and thoughts that “the correct and good” people don’t like.
MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Right to vote? Yes I think people who have been found to be senile by a committee or at least two doctors should not vote.
DarkMetatron@feddit.org 2 days ago
That is called disenfranchisement and there are laws for that already.