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• HereIAm@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The protocol itself could surely start its journey if enshittification? In which case different, possibly incompatible, branches would spawn fragmenting the Lemmy space. Still miles better than the whole thing burning to the ground. But with no shareholders looming around (yet) we can hope it won’t come to that.

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  • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I don’t see how, it’s covered by a good license, and if it did it’d be forked in an instant. Can you give a historical example?

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    • HereIAm@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I guess the closest I know of is Maps.me and Organic Maps? Maps.me was open source, but got purchased and enshittified, so Organic Maps was forked from it. And now there is some drama with the Organic Maps shareholders/co-founders, so unless that is (or has it already been?) sorted out we’re likely to see another fork of it.

      Please correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the main dev(s) members of lemmy.ml? So I can certainly see how differing political views could skew the development of the main branch of Lemmy.

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      • farngis_mcgiles@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The organic maps founders seem to have convinced the volunteers that a private company would be best to manage an open source project. The community got duped hard.

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      • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        That’s a bad example because it got forked and it wasn’t an actual problem?

        Please correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the main dev(s) members of lemmy.ml[3]? So I can certainly see how differing political views could skew the development of the main branch of Lemmy.

        People say this all the time but never can give even one example of a potential problem. Forking sounds insane to me.

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• Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Isn’t that the exact same argument for Twitter? If Twitter gets shitty, people will just leave? Because I feel like we’re not really seeing that.

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  • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    No, not at all, twitter is not decentralized, with a lemmy instance, if you leave, you lose nothing at all. With twitter, you can’t take the content or your account

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    • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Not quite accurate. If you leave an instance, you do lose any posts or comments you had. Not a big loss, but there is that sense of investment in an account and reputation.

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      • Kirk@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It’s entirely possible in the future, since ActivityPub accounts can be “forwarded”. It’s a little clunky but look at Mastodon.

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      • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Not really though, you can still see them from the other account, so meh

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  • Kirk@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    There is only one Twitter whereas anyone can start “a Lemmy”.

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  • RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Millions of people have left Twitter, wtf are you talking about?

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  • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    No because Twitter is a walled ecosystem, you can’t move to Bluesky and interact with people on twitter for example.

    With federated stuff you can move and still interact with people on other instances.

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    • Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You’re telling me you can’t cross post links from Twitter to Bluesky and vis versa?

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      • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Sure you can, but I can’t follow someone on twitter or bluesky from other platforms.

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• TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  if .world says being a minor is bannable suddenly there’s no minors anywhere on Lemmy. A minor example that is understandable, sure, but it’s just to show that a single large instance can cause a lot of change if they decide to.

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  • Kirk@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Lemmy.world is the second largest Lemmy instance, and less than a third of all users. If someone doesn’t like their rules it is trivial for a person to move to an instance who’s ruleset better aligns with their wishes.

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    • Alaknar@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      it is trivial for a person to move to an instance who’s ruleset better aligns with their wishes

      How?

      Can I just move my existing account to a different instance? Or do I need to create a new account on another instance?

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      • Kirk@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        With Mastodon you can migrate your account, Lemmy can’t migrate (yet). But the difference between Fediverse and commercial platforms is that you can access the same network of content from different instances. With Twitter/Reddit etc. everyone is forced onto a single instance (and a single moderation policy).

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  • desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    perhaps you aren’t aware of how many instances there are that have much looser rules

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  • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    But I don’t think that’s true at all.

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    • TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I haven’t seen anyone share their age that’s less than 18 since that change 🤷‍♀️

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      • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I hadn’t seen that before the change? I didn’t even know there was one.

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