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Gustephan@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Don’t we still have a few years before lemmy somehow enshittifies?
The fact that this is being upvoted so much I think demonstrates a big misunderstanding of how the fediverse works.
Nobody owns Lemmy and if a instance does something shitty it costs hardly anything to change instances. Nobody owns the lemmy software, and other softwares like mbin/piefed exist too with the same content.
It’d be pretty difficult, any instances that start that shit would be defederated with a quickness, but I don’t want to be too optimistic lol
Not really. It’s not a centralized platform by design - unless you’re talking about the flagship instances, which are a common problem with federated projects
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 days ago
It’s impossible by design. If an instance enshittifies people will just leave the instance.
HereIAm@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The protocol itself could surely start its journey if enshittification? In which case different, possibly incompatible, branches would spawn fragmenting the Lemmy space. Still miles better than the whole thing burning to the ground. But with no shareholders looming around (yet) we can hope it won’t come to that.
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 days ago
I don’t see how, it’s covered by a good license, and if it did it’d be forked in an instant. Can you give a historical example?
HereIAm@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I guess the closest I know of is Maps.me and Organic Maps? Maps.me was open source, but got purchased and enshittified, so Organic Maps was forked from it. And now there is some drama with the Organic Maps shareholders/co-founders, so unless that is (or has it already been?) sorted out we’re likely to see another fork of it.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the main dev(s) members of lemmy.ml? So I can certainly see how differing political views could skew the development of the main branch of Lemmy.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Isn’t that the exact same argument for Twitter? If Twitter gets shitty, people will just leave? Because I feel like we’re not really seeing that.
Kirk@startrek.website 1 day ago
There is only one Twitter whereas anyone can start “a Lemmy”.
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 days ago
No, not at all, twitter is not decentralized, with a lemmy instance, if you leave, you lose nothing at all. With twitter, you can’t take the content or your account
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
Not quite accurate. If you leave an instance, you do lose any posts or comments you had. Not a big loss, but there is that sense of investment in an account and reputation.
RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Millions of people have left Twitter, wtf are you talking about?
MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
No because Twitter is a walled ecosystem, you can’t move to Bluesky and interact with people on twitter for example.
With federated stuff you can move and still interact with people on other instances.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You’re telling me you can’t cross post links from Twitter to Bluesky and vis versa?
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
if .world says being a minor is bannable suddenly there’s no minors anywhere on Lemmy. A minor example that is understandable, sure, but it’s just to show that a single large instance can cause a lot of change if they decide to.
Kirk@startrek.website 1 day ago
Lemmy.world is the second largest Lemmy instance, and less than a third of all users. If someone doesn’t like their rules it is trivial for a person to move to an instance who’s ruleset better aligns with their wishes.
Alaknar@lemm.ee 1 day ago
How?
Can I just move my existing account to a different instance? Or do I need to create a new account on another instance?
desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
perhaps you aren’t aware of how many instances there are that have much looser rules
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 days ago
But I don’t think that’s true at all.
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
I haven’t seen anyone share their age that’s less than 18 since that change 🤷♀️