Comment on Windows 10 LTSC – the version that won't expire for years

CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• stardustsystem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’ve been using 10 LTSC for a few months now, it works great with the few Windows-only apps I still use. I mainly use it to organize my media library, but it’s not had any problems with the few games I’ve installed with Kernel-level anti-cheat (Destiny 2, Delta Force)

  I had to download the Xbox Accessories app to control my Elite controller, but that’s really it.

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  • cmhe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You might likely run into issues with GPU (and other) windows drivers, which might stop supporting old windows 10 versions. At least that happened already with LTSC/LTSB. I expect this to happen especially when ordinary windows 10 EOL is reached.

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    • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Is that much of a big deal though? Running old GPU drivers is fine, other than maybe if you like playing the latest AAA games down the road.

      I mean eventually it will be an issue, but for a long time I imagine they will work just fine.

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      • cmhe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Well, it just depends in your use-case. Sometimes new games or applications require newer drivers or directly a newer Windows version. This is something you just have to be aware of.

        At least that was a reason I switched LTSC Windows over to Enterprise for some people.

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      • ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I’ve certainly had games stop working with older drivers. Older games, even.

        But maybe.

        Personally I just moved to Linux with Proton, but is not for everyone.

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• FenrirIII@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  There it is. Top post is always someone casually telling you to “Just install Linux.”

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  • CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I see your point but the correct answer is to install current branch. If you want pain and suffering, skip the appetizer and go straight to Linux.

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• Maldreamer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I am curious as to why you think so that it’s not intended for desktop applications. I don’t really have a say in server applications as I don’t use any such software. What I use W10 LTSC is mainly for my engineering softwares which won’t work properly with WINE. All normal software that you expect to work in home version also seems to be working minus all the bloat and more control over configuration. I feel like it’s the most clean version of windows that one can use now.

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  • CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Simply, because Microsoft says so. The amount of “omg micro$oft is such garbage” more professional versions of that that can be attributed to not RTFM is fairly significant. It’s interesting how much effort people will put in to making a OSS project work, and give up fairly quickly in Windows land. Merely an observation; all respect to those who daily drive on Linux (and to be fair it’s been quite a few years since I tried).

    More specifically, you can run into driver and software issues both inside and outside of the Microsoft space. The “Feature Updates” that are put out do include a fair bit under the hood sometimes and you miss that. Less likely in the personal use space, but quite significant in the business space. When the IT curmudgeon deploys LTSC across 1500 devices and 2 years later needs to implement a newer capability, it’s a hell of a lot of work.

    Your use case is realistically the intended use case, outside of industrial equipment/embedded systems. You’re using WINE for most stuff and poke your head into Windows occasionally.

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    • ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Specifically on what they say:

      techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/…/293181

      They intend it for stuff that really is specialty systems or single apps, like ATMs or stuff that drive CAT scans. Not geberal-purpose systems.

      Doesn’t mean it won’t work for a whole lot of other people, though.

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      • Jaysyn@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        My employer has been using it for desktop AutoCAD installs for year now.

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• towelie@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  What is this disclaimer warning about? I have used LTSC exclusively since 2019 and everything works. I have not had an instance of something not working that would have otherwise worked on Enterprise or Home, etc

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  • spirinolas@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I even upgraded the system without a clean installation and everything worked perfectly and I have huge customization in my pc.

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• ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Only shit thing is a couple online games I like playing are dicks about their anti cheat and not wanting to be Linux compatible.

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  • ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Small price to pay

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    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Not really. I pretty much exclusively use my desktop pc for gaming. I have a laptop for doing work on.

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      • ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Even smaller then

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• HollowNaught@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’ve installed Linux mint about a month ago and it’s been great. The only real problem that stops me from moving everything over is:

  I can’t properly play small untranslated Japanese games that aren’t on steam

  To be clear, I can run them just fine, it’s just that the translator I used (VN Translator Neo) can’t be run on Linux. When I run it using wine, the window just goes black

  I’ve tried a few other image-based translators, but they all either don’t run or don’t detect the game in wine

  If anybody has a workaround (besides dual booting windows) I’d be very grateful

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• kratoz29@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I don’t know how to install Linux in my MacBook Pro 2014 without fucking up macOS, I do have Win10 installed already with Bootcamp, so this LTSC version already looks more interesting to me than any of the Linux flavors.

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  • ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Did you attempt to look it up?

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    • smort@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah I did install Linux (Mint) on my MacBook Pro 2014. Maybe six months ago. Do. Not. Recommend.

      It installed fine. I had to search and install three or four drivers. Fine. But getting the webcam to work was a jumble of mismatched, often contradictory tools and instructions. After lots of hacky attempts, I finally got off-color, blocky, low frame rate video out of it. And there was one other aspect—maybe sleeping—where I tried a bunch of shit and never got it to work. Not to mention it was slower doing comparable tasks vs. MacOS

      I have two other Linux machines in the house. They work great for what they need to do. But it’s not the right tool for every application, and anyone who says it is is just being silly.

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      • kratoz29@lemm.ee ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Comparing your experience with macOS would be a bit unfair, how about with Windows?

        For example I can tell the sleep feature works better in macOS than Win10… Battery backup as well…

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    • kratoz29@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Once several years ago, I needed to use 3rd party tools and I wasn’t too confident to mess up with the MacBook, which is considerably more locked than previous laptops I have ever used, that is why I wanted to stay in the Boot Camp field.

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