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• confuser@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  In that case matrix also doesn’t federate because its not I terwcting with the fediverse like here on lemmy.

  But revolt, matrix, and rocket.chat are all deployable by end users to connect to the platform and interact with people.

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  • Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What do you think Federate means? It absolutely does, Matrix Federates over the Matrix protocol, which is a separate protocol from Activitypub which is what Lemmy and Mastodon use. It doesn’t Federate with Lemmy and Mastodon because they are different protocols but it absolutely does federate. Honestly there’s no reason for it to Federate with Lemmy and Masotodon. ActivityPub isn’t a good protocol to use for chatting, Matrix as a chat protocol is superior. Not to say that activitypub is bad, it’s great for social media platforms like forums and blogging, it’s just not good for instant messaging.

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  • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Activitypub and the matrix protocol are different things, they aren’t supposed to interact with each other. Matrix servers using matrix implementations (synapse, tuwunel, conduit, etc) can interact with each other, since they are all based on the same protocol. Same way we do it, how AP servers with mbin,piefed,lemmy interact all with each other, since they are all based on the same protocol, too.

    Revolt doesn’t federate at all. They even admit this.. I stand corrected on rocket.chat, they actually implemented the matrix protocol, so it’s interoperable with matrix.

    I think your last point is flawed, since even with multiple revolt instances; they don’t interact at all. Which, is not federation. Matrix is federated, there’s no other way to look at it and they’re not comparable, and not meant to be compared at all.

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    • poVoq@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      actually implemented the matrix protocol, so it’s interoperable with matrix.

      They originally planned this, but realized along the way that the Matrix specs are overly complicated and change at the wim of Element, so they ended up only supporting a link to Synapse via the appservice system, which isn’t great as it means you have to run both Rocketchat and Synapse on the same server for it to work.

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      • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Ah, matrix being a PITA; what a surprise :D

        Yeah, it’s a far fetch calling it federated at all. Will edit, thanks.

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    • confuser@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I guess i was taking the more generous route with the term then, I was treating capability to interact on the platform as federated which in hindsight doesn’t make as much sense as in the normal context of it.

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  • dabaldeagul@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Federation isn’t exclusive to the Fediverse. Matrix is federated but not with the Fediverse. They only federate with other Matrix servers/instances.

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