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vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Tangent5280@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  What parts are these? I’ve always wondered what this was about, why the pixel was the only phone that could support GrapheneOS

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  • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The last I looked was that the Pixel was the only phone that allowed you to load a custom rom and relock the bootloader. Other phones kept the bootloader unlocked once it was modded.

    So, graphene could be put on those phones if the devs wanted to do it, but it would be less secure since the bootloader would remain unlocked.

    Also, supporting a small line a phones is probably infinitely easier than a range, of devices, but it would be nice to have another option. Especially now that the Fairphone pice is reasonable.

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    • baduhai@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The last I looked was that the Pixel was the only phone that allowed you to load a custom rom and relock the bootloader. Other phones kept the bootloader unlocked once it was modded.

      That is not the case. SHIFTmq, Motorola and Fairphone allow the bootloader to be relocked with a custom rom. There are many requirements the Fairphone lacks for GrapheneOS, but relocking the bootloader is not one of them.

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      • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Thanks! I guess what I read before was either old or just wrong.

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    • Prism@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The Fairphone can be locked after flashing a custom rom. /e/-OS is officially supported. You can even buy it from them with /e/ preinstalled. iode-OS also works. I don’t know about Graphene OS, but tbh, I don’t see the benefit of Graphene OS for the average user. /e/ has built in privacy features, is google-free and runs MicroG as alternative to Google Play Services. Most apps run fine. You can even use your apps that you purchased from the PlayStore.

      I’ve been using Fairphone 5 with /e/-OS for over a year and love it.

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      • Luffy879@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        /e/ has built in privacy features

        /e/ uses a for profit 3rd party for unencrypted backups. That alone should be a big red flag.

        is google-free and runs MicroG

        So it runs google. MicroG just limits what data is sent to google.

        You can even use your apps that you purchased from the PlayStore.

        You can do the same with aurora store. That’s available on just about every phone.

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      • vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        e-OS is said to have the worst security of pretty much all Android distributions.

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  • MicKet@swiss.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    @vga @Tangent5280

    https://www.kuketz-blog.de/weshalb-grapheneos-aktuell-nur-google-pixel-geraete-unterstuetzt/

    (From an Interview - The relevant parts are in English)

    Security seems not easy.

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• Luffy879@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I mean, you could use CalyxOS

  It dosent have such things as 2 factor pin auth for fingerprint, but its the closest to Graphene

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  • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Not quite the same. The big thing with GrapheneOS is it can run the actual Google services, but sandboxed. Organic Maps is better than Google Maps in everyway, but it’s routes are so much worse because it has no traffic into to go on. It’s an anticompetitive network effect, but it’s hard to fight without law makers.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Organic Maps is better than Google Maps in everyway

      It’s really not, here are a few more:

      • no reviews for businesses - that’s a huge reason people use Maps
      • you have to manually download maps you want to see, and repeat w/ every update
      • lots of missing info, especially where I live, and especially businesses
      • no satellite images or street view - OSM has it though

      That said, I use Organic Maps almost exclusively, and I put in the time to add missing info where I can. I’ve probably added hundreds of places for my area. Basically, when I go somewhere new, if it’s not in OSM, I take a few pictures and add the place when I get home, and I’ll put in the effort to enter hours, phone number, etc from their website. It’s a pain, but hopefully someone down the line appreciates that.

      All of that info exists in GM though, so the only reason for me to use OM is stubbornness. OM is fantastic, but it’s hardly “better than Google Maps in every way,” in fact it’s probably worse in most ways. However, I prefer it and will keep using it because I refuse to use Google services.

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      • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Ok, I accept all that, but the maps just are better to me. I grew up with the UK Ordnance Survey maps, and that’s kind of what I want from my maps.

        I’ll amend.

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