Okay. Then thank you to your grandparents who sat idly by while Poland was invaded?
We don’t control much here. We get presented shitty options, the electoral college makes a lot of our votes not matter, and a lot of people are just trying to live.
cocolowlander@feddit.nl 1 week ago
Thank you American voters, who voted for Trump or sat out because the opposition wasn’t “good” enough.
Sincerely, European resident
callouscomic@lemm.ee 1 week ago
cocolowlander@feddit.nl 6 days ago
Why do you make it sound like showing up for half a day and casting a vote is some ultimate sacrifice. That is the minimum duty of a citizen.
callouscomic@lemm.ee 5 days ago
You ignore the electoral college (i.e. an entire state swinging for one candidate), you also ignore voter suppression tactics. In some parts of the US it is seriously difficult for certain groups, especially the poor, to exercise this right. Merely transportation issues alone can be super prohibitive. They explicitly close polling stations in certain areas and fucn with transportation services for this. They push back against early and mail in voting. Peoplebhave to work during that day. They have kids and lives.
This is well known in America. Get off your smug high horse.
GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
The opposition that ‘wasn’t “good” enough’ was funding and supporting a genocide to the hilt. The USA is a fucked, evil state.
thejml@lemm.ee 1 week ago
Yeah, because Trump didn’t make it clear enough that he was going to hand over as many bombs as possible to speed the genocide up so he could build a hotel/resort there. What the hell did you think would happen with the “I’ll just buy stocks in defense contractors before I escalate a war” Republican party?
Gimme a break. I hate Biden but at least he was trying to talk Netanyahu down and setup a peace deal. Biden even held bombs back until the republicans threatened to impeach him. Do I think he should have stuck to his guns, absolutely, but it’s congress that makes those decisions, not the president. Either way, thanks for choosing the worst timeline, directly or indirectly it doesn’t matter at this point.
GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
This is fiction, considering all the materiel and money the US sent over. Joe Biden saw 40 beheaded babies. He’s the only one who saw this. He also said, “I have no notion that the Palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed,” directly downplaying the casualty numbers. Maybe you actually believed it every time Vedant Patel and Matt Miller lied about having difficult conversations with their Israeli counterparts?
Tell that to the DNC. I don’t make these decisions. My state went for Harris. Putting aside the genocide, if you can possibly do such a thing, people’s economic security got worse while Biden was president. Whether or not you can blame the president for this is beside the point, as we should all know by now that the president gets blamed regardless (particularly by well-funded reactionary media sources). That they couldn’t counter this is, again, not my choice.
Beryl@jlai.lu 1 week ago
The beheaded isreali babies was a lie never happened.Stop propagating this lie.
thejml@lemm.ee 1 week ago
First off, I’m not here to defend anyone. Biden and the Democrats should have been further left, and told our supposed ally to pound sand when they wanted bombs for Gaza. But they are an ally, and these deals came from Congress, so the democrats have basically zero say in what actually happens there because the republicans hold enough power there to make it so.
Secondly, don’t gaslight me. There’s plenty of news sites, it was pretty well covered, and I lived through it. I know what I read and saw. I don’t think it went far enough, and I’m pissed off it went the way it did, but it happened. A quick Google/bing/kagi search reveals plenty of results.
Thirdly, it doesn’t really matter. If you have the choice between “we’re going to let them bomb the shit out of them” and “were probably going to let them bomb the shit out of them” you don’t really get a choice on that front. You can NEVER truly be a single issue voter anyway in the US, so the fact that you choose who you didn’t means you liked the rest of Trump’s Project 2025 platform as well. You choose who’s more closely aligned with what you think is best and then you petition your congressional representative with your position. And I know we’re all looking forward to see just how far down economic security can go.
peregrin5@lemm.ee 1 week ago
Fuck off Russian shill.
KillerTofu@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Ah yes because the genocide has stopped with the new administration.
barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 week ago
My first presidential election was in 1980. I have voted in every election since, and I have NEVER voted for a candidate I liked. The best I could ever hope for was the lesser of two evils, and sometimes the difference wasn’t so wide.
But that wasn’t the case in 2024, where the difference between the two sides was far wider than I have ever experienced. I am very distressed at the situation in Haza, and I did not support Biden’s weak, cowardly approach at all, but I also knew that Trump’s approach was going to be far, far worse. And Harris’ approach was an an unknown, since she refused to say anything that signalled any difference in policy from Biden.
But all of it is just blathering because that didnt make any difference in this election. It was totally rigged, and we ALL know it.
GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
To the people who saw my post and downvoted: it was not my choice that the Democrats ran the senile walking dead genocidal maniac in 2024. Then when it became too obvious how senile he was and they couldn’t lie about it anymore, they passed the torch directly to a woman who was so dogshit at campaigning that she had to drop out of the 2020 primaries before a single vote was even cast.
You could blame us for putting up a more honest candidate there in the first place, but there isn’t a structure in place to even allow such a thing to happen. Consider what happened to Bernie 2020, for example.
redwattlebird@lemmings.world 1 week ago
It doesn’t matter. The choice was the status quo or something worse for everyone on earth, economically.
Everyone in the world knows the US election system is crap and has been getting more crap for decades. The world isn’t angry at you specifically. The world is angry at the apathy of the general American public and the sheer amount of influence America has over the global economy since WW2.
There were protests for George Floyd. There was the MeToo movement.
But when it comes to a convicted felon and known criminal taking the top seat? Crickets. Anything that isn’t US centric, such as the global economy, doesn’t seem to rustle any of your jimmies. Hence, we’re pissed because your apathy has brought in economic instability on all of us when it could have all been easily prevented.
Something as small as ‘not having the right candidate’ or even ‘sticking it to the libs’ means nothing to the rest of the world when what we have now it’s the alternative.
For a country with so much global power, the populace is so, so, so small minded.
nialv7@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Quite sad the amount of downvotes you are getting, it’s like the dem supporters haven’t learned their lesson yet…
CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 1 week ago
Yeah they’re directly responsible for the path we’ve been on for decades now. They pretend to be an opposition party but are really acting like controlled opposition. This is why even now as people are being illegally sent to El Salvadorian death camps, we get little more from Dems than “concern” and angry letters. Maybe if Harris hadn’t spent so much time courting Dick Cheney’s approval, she wouldn’t have lost.
GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
For people who aren’t American, I can understand it. They rightfully should be mad at us for allowing this to happen.
For people who are American, they need to start thinking fast about how it is even possible that the Democrats failed in their one job which was to ensure Trump would not win in 2024. It’s long past time to stop thinking about individual voters and start thinking about feckless party leadership. Examining this fully would be like a whole textbook’s worth of words, but I think the one microcosm example that’s really worth interrogating is why Nancy Pelosi pressed the lever in favor of Rep. Cuellar in Texas (the most Republican-voting Democrat in the House in one of the most solidly blue districts) over two-time challenger Jessica Cisneros, who came within a stone’s toss of beating him in a primary.
rational_lib@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Maybe you should blame yourselves for failing to convince the American people to vote for candidates who would cut off aid to Israel. Maybe, just maybe, camping in people’s public spaces, spraypainting people’s neighborhoods with “FUCK ISRAEL”, and oh yeah, helping get a fascist dictator elected wasn’t the best way to make those people want to side with you.
SaltSong@startrek.website 1 week ago
If there was a viable non-genocide candidate, o wolf have voted for him.