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• SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Maybe give the decision to the people who resided in this land before the Ottomans or British put the intentionally divisive borders that they’d come up with?

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  • 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m pretty sure most of those people are dead.

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  • Eheran@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How is that a reasonable approach? How would that solve anything?

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  • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, there were never any wars in the middle east before the Ottomans or British came along. Right? Right!?

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    • SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There has always been combat literally everywhere with humans. The main difference is that the decision to take part in that war was not already made on the people’s behalf by the US through the puppet governance they admitted to have placed their.

      Especially when that decision usually benefit the US significantly by having the other country is in a state that allows additional control by the US.

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• Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You can’t bomb a place or rape its people into stability. We have 200 years of hard evidence for that (not that it was needed). Literally any other approach would be beneficial for everyone except the war profiteers

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  • 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t think their goal is stability. It is elimination. And the same would be true if the situation reversed. So either that’s what eventually happens or a bigger power steps in and rules them like children.

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• LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You need peace / security, a modicum of prosperity, and education / information from independent news.

  Basically both Israel and Palestine are fucked.

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  • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean, it’s not like there wasn’t a technically-still-binding treaty for a 2-state solution, which would still be a working compromise for both sides (even though Israel would, by now, have to become Germany 2.0 in terms of self-awareness and lasting change to be even remotely trusted by its neighbors)… which gets completely ignored and pissed on by Israel…

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    • LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’d basically need to de-nazify Israel and occupy it by some benevolent, nation building world police. Show the horror in documentaries, re-educate, rebuild the democratic institutions like news and social media. Obviously a pipe dream.

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• Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  One State. Simple

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  • 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    One state, immediately in the state of civil war where one side has access to the most money and the best weapons? I gave up on this idea after seeing the effects of this current war. Either one side will eliminate the other or a bigger country will rule both of them as if they are children incapable of running their own lives. Is there a reasonable plan for peace other than these?

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• denialisposdtected@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Step 1: stop carpet bombing civilians

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