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Allero@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• Deathray5@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Both male and female are supposed to be used as an adjective. For example “male model” and "female model’.

  The problem is using female(s) as a noun. For example “I met 5 females in class today” which is just as weird as “I met 5 males in class today”.

  This meme is almost certainly a criticism of the latter and as you much more concisely put it “Use “male” and “female” in its appropriate context”.

  The reason this meme is phrased like this is because many incel groups use “female(s)” as a noun in a deliberately derogatory manor and people don’t do that for men.

  Also clarifying the point like this would make the meme less snappy. Though I think they could put “as a noun” at the end

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  • Allero@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    People do use them as nouns. For example, in statistical/scientific context: “Among males/females…”, or “I’m a male”

    And I certainly saw the word “males” being commonly used, which is pretty much why I’m so baffled by the need to banish its counterpart.

    Incels may call women whatever, but actively banishing the word because it was appropriated by some group of weirdos isn’t gonna help - rather, it will only deepen the flawed interpretation of a very regular and normal word, assigning context to where there was none.

    I’m a proud male. Why can’t there be a proud female? This only means she is a woman, after all.

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    • PussButton@lemmy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I do wonder what you’re proud of exactly, when you’re proud to be male. Proud of the genitals you were assigned at birth?

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      • Allero@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Nope, not proud as in “yay I’m so happy to be male”. Proud as in “I’m a male and there’s nothing bad about it, I’m happy to be who I am without shitting on anyone being different”

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    • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The language of scientific literature is not the same as the language of everyday use. There’s a reason grad programs have entire courses dedicated to scientific communication.

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      • Allero@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I am a grad student, and I often wish we wouldn’t make too much distinction

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• mienshao@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Sorry mate, not how language works. Men is a noun, male is usually an adjective, they aren’t interchangeable. Depending on the context, it can be weird/wrong to call groups of people by an adjective (exp. illegals, poors, disableds). Hearing men call women “females” sounds weird af dude, you’re proving OP’s point.

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  • Allero@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Why?

    One can call a group of men “males”, and no one bats an eye. But once anyone uses “female” to refer to a woman, it’s a shitshow.

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    • fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      No one does that

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    • peregrin5@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What if it’s “the perp is a 5’4” female heading west"?

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• JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Can’t help but notice you’re complaining about the post but never did what the post is complaining about.

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  • Allero@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Not here in particular, but I have been called out several times for using the word “female” in an appropriate and normal context.

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    • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      As a noun to refer to humans?

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      • Allero@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Even as an adjective in scientific context.

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