Wait, so you literally have hundreds of accounts? How do you manage them all?
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mbirth@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
This vulnerability made it possible to collect user data simply by knowing someone’s email address or phone number.
Another example of where it pays off to have separate email addresses/aliases for every website/service you use.
joshchandra@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
mbirth@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
My email provider allows for unlimited aliases. So, while I have 600+ email addresses, emails to them all end up in the same mailbox.
The accounts for all the websites and services (with their specific email address) are in a KeePass database and they all have random passwords, too.
The only small issue is when you have to contact support of some service. Then, I have to configure the specific email address in my client so they can match that to my account with them. But most email clients allow multiple sender addresses without having to fiddle with the rest of the settings.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My email provider allows for unlimited aliases. So, while I have 600+ email addresses, emails to them all end up in the same mailbox.
I do this too. The unique email address I create for each is identifiable to the place I’m using it. This has other benefits. If an organization you created and account with sells or has a data breech you know exactly which company it was when you start receiving spam or phishing email directed to that address. This is also nice because you can “black hole” that email address and all the spam goes with it even future spam not sent yet.
mbirth@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Exactly! I add a random string to each email address, too, so you can’t just guess other addresses. So, it’s usually something similar to
lemmy-r4nd0m@mydomain.me. And, whenever a breach happens, I’ll generate a new random part and set that as my email address and invalidate the old one. Until the next breach. (Looking at you, LinkedIn…)
CatZoomies@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is what I do as well. I purchased my own custom domain name and run aliases off it using Addy. So as an example, an email for an online account would look like: ‘random9.words@mycustomemail.com’
Then I feed these accounts into a password manager so I don’t have to remember them.
All the aliases forward mail directly to my main inbox. Companies never see what my real address is. If I get spam, I know which company either sold my data or leaked my data. I can then take action by simply turning off that email alias and then spinning up a new one.
The best thing about owning your custom domain is that you’re in control and never have to change your email addresses. If I want to move to a new email provider, I can easily do that. The process, simplified:
- Buy a domain name
- Sign up for an email account at Tuta, Mailbox, etc.
- Set up your custom domain at that provider.
- Go to your Domain provider and update your MX records so that it syncs with the email provider.
- if you want to switch email providers, get a new one and then update your MX records to point to the new provider.
Gibibit@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Thanks for the guide on how to switch. I’ve been using a mail provider with my own domain for a while now. I’m not unhappy with their service but they only let me make a few inboxes. Good to know switching can be seamless.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Awesome. How’s the Addy privacy posture looking?
CatZoomies@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I signed up with them ensuring I read their privacy policy. Based on my personal privacy threat model, I’m okay with their policy. This wouldn’t fit a more intensive threat model.
I haven’t read it recently but last I remember they do have the option to temporarily store an email in the event of a failed delivery, until it can eventually get sent to you. This is opt-in I believe, and a toggle you can enable in your account.
In the time I’ve used them I haven’t had any issues with email deliveries. Been happy with the service so far, having left SimpleLogin and Proton for political reasons.
max_dryzen@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
wouldn’t profilers simply track via the domain tld instead of the whole address…
shopping1 at uniquedomain.com, bank2 at uniquedomain.com, etc
CatZoomies@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Great questions! Seriously, those made me think for sure.
For question one, I suppose a profiler could do that. If my domain name is myemaildomain.com, they probably could track all emails and sell it collectively. But I don’t think corporations do that at this time. That would be akin to profiling all Hotmail, Gmail, Live, etc emails, appreciating those are massive services. I suppose if nefarious actors were to do that to my domain, I could consider switching domains - I have multiple domain names I own, and it’d be trivial to use the other ones. In the years I’ve been using a custom domain for email, I haven’t encountered any nefarious actors and have significantly eliminated any spam.
For question two, the domain provider I use doesn’t do that in their terms of service. However, if they did look at my MX records and decided they wanted to profile me as a user of Addy, they definitely could do that. Though it would hurt their business as many users would migrate their domains to new registrars - I certainly would move my domains to a new registrar!
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
How do you reply to those emails in case of needing to contact with said company.
I’d assume they would deny service if the user (even on the same custom domain) is not equal to the account holder.CatZoomies@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
When you get an email from Company A that sends to your alias email, the email goes to your inbox. When you reply to that email, your alias provider forwards it to Company A where the sender is your alias address.
In short, you simply reply and your alias service takes care of it for you so that the recipient only sees your alias email and not your true email.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I don’t use an “alias provider”.
I just don’t use aliases for companies I need to send emails to. There are very few.
NikoWantToGoBowling@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Password manager plus an emailing alias service. Protonpass integrates with SimpleLogin but there’s also ones like Firefox relay and anomaly (all open source)
joshchandra@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
Thanks, though do you have a link for Anomaly? I can’t seem to pull up anything.
NikoWantToGoBowling@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Anon addy sorry lol
suicidaleggroll@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Yes, and Bitwarden+SimpleLogin. Bitwarden to keep track of login info including the alias that is used for that site. SimpleLogin is where the aliasing is actually handled, they have a decent UI for enabling/disabling or generating reverse aliases (for outgoing emails) when needed.
It does take a little more effort to manage it, but it’s worth the payoff. I’ve been using this setup for about 9 months now and I finally got my first spam email a week ago. I looked at the address it was sent to, it was a site I ordered something from about 6 months ago. I sent them a message letting them know that either someone at their company is selling customer info to scammers or their database has been leaked, then I shut off the alias.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I sent them a message letting them know that either someone at their company is selling customer info to scammers or their database has been leaked, then I shut off the alias.
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ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
My email provider will auto-generate aliases with no limit, and I also subscribe to Mozilla Firefox Relay, which allows me to invent email addresses on the fly and have them relay emails to my inbox. The advantage of the Firefox Relay is that it isn’t tied to the email provider so if I switch provider the aliases can still work.
joshchandra@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
Hmm, 5 for free, I see; thanks for sharing. Is your provider Proton Mail?
ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
No, I’m on Fastmail. It’s full-featured and has a slick web UI, but it’s not as good for privacy as Tuta, Proton, etc. Also, although Fastmail is Australian they apparently host their servers in the USA.
zugzwang@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I use addy.io
joshchandra@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
Wow, infinite aliases?! This is way better than Fx Relay, thanks!
Ideonek@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Proton Pass has a feature exactly for that. You can create unlimited number of aliases, and kill ones that bacame compromised.
otacon239@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think it pays even more to not use X
adry@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
That's re-victimization. People do people stuff, like using social networks. Furthermore, the database probably goes as far as previous being bought and renamed by Musk. So... you're note being fair.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think there’s a fine line between victim-blaming and identifying an object lesson. We all understand why people started using twitter, and people are creatures of habit. But this is an example of why people should stop using twitter. We’re not saying “this is your fault because you’re stupid if you’re still on twitter.” The message is “this should serve as a wake up call to anyone stuck in their habits.”
huppakee@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
100%
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Giving one’s real name and real information to a social network who is intending to track everything one does or says and the people one does or says it with is idiocy and it has never not been.
People do people stuff like not listening to people who have constantly been telling them not to push the button.
People stuff also includes continuing to use these horror networks for years after knowing full well they shouldn’t.
Pirata@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I’m fairy sure the guy above said “use X” not use social media. X is a particularly shitty platform.
booly@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
The actual data compromise happened sometime before July 2022, months before Elon’s purchase of Twitter happened. Telling people they shouldn’t have registered their real phone numbers to Twitter in 2015 or whatever isn’t really a helpful argument to make today.