Comment on Content moderation is what a 21st century hazardous job looks like

Viri4thus@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So, are you one of the “mental healthcare isn’t real healthcare” people, or are you just butthurt and unable to be objective because some mod banned you one time?

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  • Viri4thus@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Mental healthcare is one of the most neglected forms of care in current modern western society. It IS and always HAS BEEN a serious and damaging form of disease.

    What it isn’t is comparable to black lung or COPD in content moderation teams. The exaggeration by hacks like Miceli, to justify her grift and the continued funneling of grants towards her dubious work at TUB does more disservice for the cause than helps. It creates a situation of Peter and the Wolf and makes access to care extremely complicated to people who are suffering from mental illness, with severe social and personal consequences.

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    • chobeat@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      funneling of grants towards her dubious work at TUB Bro, don’t just google shit about scholars you have no clue about and make up fake accusations. She’s not doing research at TU Berlin, she’s just a lecturer there. She’s one of the most famous scholars in this field and she’s associated more strongly with DAIR, which is a thousand times more relevant in this discourse than TU, and DiPLab in Paris.

      You clearly just googled her name, checked where she works, and made up some shit.

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      • Viri4thus@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I just mentioned the affiliation of her published work and the several works cited as funded by the federal ministry of education and research… If anything you’re actually strengthening my point, this type of exaggeration is a charm operation rather than a call for corrective measures.

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    • Sibyls@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Then how can you say mental health is “one of the most neglected forms of care”, then go on to neglect the mental health concerns brought up by the article by minimizing it to a single comparison made in the first paragraph?

      We can all agree that content moderation is incredibly harmful, and if we want to support mental health care, that should be the focus of discussion.

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    • Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So you understand the theory but are ignoring the practical applications? Cool cool cool.

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      • Viri4thus@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What the hell is wrong with lemmy.world, is everyone here illiterate. Is it a US american node or something that people lack basic reading comprehension?

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    • atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So you don’t think having a mental illness or malady can detrimentally affect the physical wellbeing of the person with the malady despite multiple studies that say otherwise. Good to know.

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      • Viri4thus@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The fact you need to misrepresent my argument to have a leg to stand on already tells any reader what they need to know about the value of your premises.

        Your arguments from the beginning were ad hominem and red herring, not an actual substantive justification to the comparison of mental illness of moderation teams vs illness of coal miners.

        There’s some low hanging fruit solutions to this issue. Forbid content moderation work to be subcontracted from BPOs, all moderation work in the GDPR area must be conducted by people with local passports. Include mandatory whistleblower clauses and require medical examinations yearly before people can be hired for this work. Limit the usage of KPIs for moderation work.

        Of course, nobody will enact any of this low hanging fruit because it’s easier to exploit migrants. But let’s keep listening to grifters comparing moderation with coal miners, that’s really going to jive well.

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    • RogueBanana@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So what’s your point? Moderation isn’t hazardous or that it is not as dangerous as coal mining? I can understand if it is the later but it would be foolish to claim the first.

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      • Viri4thus@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That it’s significantly less hazardous than coal mining and comparing it so doesn’t do the discussion the problem needs any favours.

        The researcher in question is part of an institution that is negotiating a 5y research tender renovation so they are just going with stupid shit like this.

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      LOL, give it up. Lemmy is full of kids who have never had a physically challenging job in their fucking life.

      “I saw bad things!”

      Is no way comparable to:

      “I’ve blown out my back and knees, can barely stand up in the morning and can’t make a fist.”

      And for those bitching about the first two items, 19 of 20 of them are, and have always been, fat fucks.

      Anyways, looks like GenZ is about to get hard as fuck in the next few years when they see what real suffering is.

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      • T156@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s why we should abolish mental health care for soldiers. They’re not physically disabled. Shell shock is just mental weakness, compared to their disabled comrades (!)

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