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• cheers_queers@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I use control panel enough that i would be seriously pissed if they removed it. Why is it considered bloat?

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  • Pheonixdown@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Settings is the bloat. Control Panel reigns supreme.

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    • swizzlestick@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Half the shit I actually want I just run directly these days, rather than nosing through either.

      • ncpa.cpl
      • diskmgmt.msc
      • devmgmt.msc
      • control userpasswords2
      • cmd
      • mstsc
      • regedit
      • taskmgr

      Just to name a few.

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    • Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Settings is more accessible to casual users.

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      • DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Fuck. Casual. Users.

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      • BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Causal users shouldn’t be fucking around in settings since I can attest with factual data that 0% of casual users actually know what the fuck they are doing.

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      • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Except when the setting they need isn’t in Settings. Then it’s a wild goose chase.

        In fact, it’s often a wild goose chase even if it is in Settings, because the question then is where did Microsoft decide to hide it in this most recent update?

        The thing everyone misses which was Control Panel’s greatest strength, however, was that vendors could add their own .cpl extensions to it. So settings for your specific hardware could go there. (Yes, this was abused by-and-large by some vendors just like the system tray, but that’s not the point.) Literally all of your settings and configuration stuff could go in one place. Even if a user did not know exactly where, at least they had a consistent place to start looking.

        That all ended with Windows 2000/XP and got worse with 8/10/11.

        Now we have this:

        “I want to change the behavior of Windows feature X.”

        Spin the wheel and guess!

        • Is it located in Settings?
        • Is it located in Control Panel?
        • Is there a category in Settings where it totally should be, and any reasonable person would expect it to be, but it’s not there? Surprise! It’s in Control Panel anyway because Microsoft was too lazy to migrate it to Settings.
        • Is it in both Settings and Control panel?
        • Is it lurking in the Notification Area?
        • Or is it hidden in Group Policy Management instead? Oops, too bad you bought the home edition of Windows.

        Etc.

        Control panel may have been clunky, especially for frequently accessed settings, but at least it was unified.

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      • Prok@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Until they call me because the setting they need isn’t in settings…

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    • atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They better not touch my damn control panel. I’ll fight a microsoft systems engineer. They can be added to the list.

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• based_raven@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’d rather they remove all the new shit like “Settings” and just keep all the stuff they’ve had for god knows how many years. Control Panel ftw.

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