Comment on Dad demands OpenAI delete ChatGPT’s false claim that he murdered his kids

• pyre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  you misspelled “is fucking wrong all the goddamn time”

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  • michaelmrose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It would be more accurate to say that rather than knowing anything at all they have a model of the statistical relationship between a series of tokens and subsequent tokens which words are apt to follow other words and because the training set contains many true things the words produced in response to queries often contain true statements and almost always contain statements that LOOK like true statements.

    Since it has no inherent model of the world to draw on and only such statistical relationships you should check anything important

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    • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      you say more accurate but all I see is a very roundabout way of saying fucking wrong all the goddamn time

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      • desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        it produces things that appear to be cohesive sentences. there is no reason to assign correctness to a sentence.

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• zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Maybe the owners of LLMs need to be held responsible for the problematic software they release

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  • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    There’s no problem here

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• Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Yea, I’m mind blown, how, after 3 years people still don’t know how to use LLM effectively in use cases they bring value (by reducing work time)

  • start a second chat and ask different to verify
  • if you use chatGPT reason feature, read reasoning output as well!
  • best search for verifiable thing, like code, that you can run or similar
  • if you use it for research, only trust the info, if it used web search and you have read the webpages it used to summarise as well, or use traditional web search to verify based on the output
  • it is great to manipulate text until sounds as desired (if you are not good in wording stuff anyway)
  • plan what steps to do in a project next (like “i want to do xxx have y and need it to be z, make me a list of todos)
  • and of course it is great to generate simple python scripts fast (I often use it as my python writing slave)

  Using AI like this, helped me enormously in work and live Like, I learned a lot C, C++, how linux kernel modules work, how PO/POT works, helped me with translations, introduced me into music production, helped me set up appFlowy and general windows/linux issues.

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• BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  So then what’s the use of the program if it uses a bunch of energy to just make shit up?

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  • lime@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    sometimes you need a machine that makes things up according to a given specification.

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  • michaelmrose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Because it makes up things that are 99% correct and in some areas the 99% + verification and expansion can be superior time wise to the 100% manual route

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    • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      What models are youseeing where things are 99% correct? Google’s search chat bot can’t even keep Windows vs Mac hotkey commands straight.

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      • desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        it’s pretty good a getting grammar correct.

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• surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  And when it hallucinates harmful things, protections need to be put onto the output.

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  • michaelmrose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Ok so explain particularly what this means

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    • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      If you have a service, and that service is generating things that harm people, you should have to stop it.

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      • michaelmrose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        We value the gains both immediate and presumed more than the harm

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