Comment on The Pebble Has Been Brought Back

pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• abfarid@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  IIRC, it has a reflective LCD, not epaper display.

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  • wise@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Core 2 Duo

    • 1.2" black/white e-paper screen

    Core Time 2

    • 1.5" 64 color e-paper screen

    Am I missing something?

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    • ricecake@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Epaper and eink are different. Eink consumes no power when idle, and epaper consumes almost no power.

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      • JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yet they are also the same - E Ink is an e-paper display. Electronic paper is a category for any low energy display tech that looks kinda like paper, E Ink is a very specific technology from E Ink Corporation.

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    • abfarid@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The watch featured a 32-millimetre (1.26 in) 144 × 168 pixel black and white memory LCD using an ultra low-power “transflective LCD”

      The problem is that e-paper is a category of displays, abnd some companies label reflective LCDs as “e-paper”. Which is subjective (and I personally heavily disagree with that categorization, cause then LCD clocks and Gameboys have “e-paper” displays, too).

      But in the comment I responded to it was said Pebble has “eink” display, which is categorically wrong, as that is a very specific proprietary technology, which is e-paper in traditional sense, like the ones in Kindles.

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      • Repelle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I believe these are sharp’s memory in pixel lcds. They’re much lower power than something like the game boy screen as each pixel retains its state and doesn’t need to be refreshed from the controller constantly. I actually like these little screens quite a lot. Worse pixel density and don’t look quite as good as e-ink when static, but still really Low power and can refresh way faster and smoother when needed.

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      • n2burns@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Your response says, “not epaper” which is categorically wrong. I assume you meant to say “eink”

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      • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Where exactly is that quote from? I had a look through the product page(s) and could only find e-paper being mentioned…

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• rhymepurple@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I understand that the watch operating system is open source. However, it seems that the watch will connect to a companion smartphone app. Do you know if the app is a requirement and/or if the app will be open source?

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  • gofsckyourself@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Gadgetbridge is compatible with Pebble devices

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  • calamityjanitor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah the mobile app is open source too github.com/pebble-dev/mobile-app

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    • rhymepurple@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It is not clear that this is the app that will be used for the new watches. I imagine it will support the new RePebble watches, but I believe that app was intended for the original Pebble watches.

      The thing that makes it so unclear to me is that this is a repo owned by the Rebble team, not the RePebble team. I do not know how much overlap there is between the two teams, but the RePebble team does not have any open source repos that I could find. Any mention of open source software by RePebble (including the OS) are links to repos owned by other teams, which is a little concerning.

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      • calamityjanitor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It runs basically the same PebbleOS, so they’ll work with any app that works with the original Pebbles. They plan to keep using the community app hosting at apps.rebble.io. There’s also GadgetBridge that’s compatible. Eric mentioned on HN the intention for an official open source library that can be used to make other companion apps too.

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    • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Does it spy on us?

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      • rmuk@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        One thing about the Pebble - and, I assume, these watches - is that they didn’t have WiFi or LTE, only Bluetooth. So it wasn’t possible for them to do any communication except through the apps already running on your phone. So, broadly, it’s a no.

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      • thurstylark@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The hand-wavy answer is: go check the code and find out, however that’s not accessible to everyone.

        The helpful answer is: The code is out there, and the launch date is far enough away that those who do understand it enough to make that distinction should have the time to do so before it ships, so time will tell.

        The Rebble folks probably are the closest to knowing, given they’ve been hacking on the current app for the past several years.

        My guess is probably not. The target audience probably wouldn’t be cool with it.

        Also, there are 3rd party watchfaces and apps that will be available, so that code will need to be evaluated too. So, it’s more complicated than a single yes or no.

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