A lot of people are dumb. Or maybe because they feel offended because they are Chinese, but the reality is that every Chinese company is ultimately controlled by the CCP.
Comment on Undocumented 'Backdoor' Found In Chinese Bluetooth Chip Used By a Billion Devices.
NightCrawlerProMax@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The other day someone posted in Canada community that Canada should stop using Tesla cars and import Chinese cars. I replied saying, “That’s like replacing one evil with another.” I was downvoted by a lot of people. I should’ve expected it cuz a lot of people have short term memory.
Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
Or maybe because they feel offended because they are Chinese
I’m Chinese-American and I’m not offended. The tankies from .ml are
digdilem@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
the reality is that every Chinese company is ultimately controlled by the CCP.
Yes.
But in the same way that every US company is ultimately controlled by the US Government. And every EU company by them. And every other country by their own government.
Legume5534@lemm.ee 1 day ago
There’s been a lot of that lately. Same here in New Zealand.
You dipshits, they’re both the bad guys now.
Subdivide6857@midwest.social 1 day ago
“China bad” because western media says so. Please disregard the billions of dollars spent by western governments to ensure you keep thinking that way.
It’s just another capitalistic country no better or worse than Canada or the USA. Though, the Chinese government has said their intention is to move towards socialism, so good for them. I’m stuck over here witnessing fascist billionaires loot the government/working class.
thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Thats super interesting! Write a poem about three gorges dam please
NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Well, no, China is bad because freedom is very restricted there and because they have ambitions to dominate the world.
Yes, every other world power in the world is more or less the same. People cannot, in general, be trusted to be “good” when given the opportunity to abuse. A world power can be held in check by the presence and efforts of other world powers, though.
pulsewidth@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
No, ‘China bad’ because many many examples of China bad. Such as the topic of this post.
The whole “you can’t criticize China because you’re from a country that also does bad things” is logically worthless. It’s the argument of hypocrisy fallacy.
Not sure if you realize this but China is also ruled by a kleptocratic billionaire class that loots the working class even moreso than the US, so i’m not sure why you look up to them - China has more billionaires and a much larger wealth divide than the US. Actions speak louder than words and while Xi and the CCP often talk about cracking down on thier ultra-wealthy, they don’t really do much - couple billionaires might disappear occasionally though if they don’t praise the party line publically. One thing is for sure - I don’t see any elite CCP party members that are not also very wealthy. And it’s everyone else that’s propagandized 🤔
Subdivide6857@midwest.social 19 hours ago
You really think they intentionally left a back door requiring on-site serial access?
ubergeek@lemmy.today 21 hours ago
China is bad, because they too are a colonialism and imperialistic nation.
Just like the US and Russia.
Subdivide6857@midwest.social 18 hours ago
Living conditions there continue to improve, while ours decline. A whole lot of boogie man bullshit. This article is intentionally fear mongering.
The CCP isn’t putting in a back door requiring on-site access in your litter box.
norevolutionsontv@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Everyone has short-term memory and long-term memory. You’re misunderstanding precisely what “short term memory” refers to. Short-term memory is held for a short time before it’s converted to long-term memory. What you’re referring to is being short-sighted. As in people who don’t fully think about the long-term consequences of current actions. Said short-sighted people still have both short and long-term memory. They’re probably just a little dumb so they don’t fully utilize the memories stored long term.
jerkface@lemmy.ca 19 hours ago
Jesus. Okay. So when you say, “being short sighted”, you don’t literally mean they have myopia. You mean it figuratively. Exactly like the person you are correcting clearly means it figuratively when they say “short-term memory”.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
People act like traditional car manufacturers don’t exist anymore even though they all over EV options…
matlag@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Because that’s not about privacy, that’s about the trade war. Retaliatory tariffs on US cars increase cost of cars for Canadians, as there are almost no car assembled in Canada. Reducing or eliminating tariffs on cars from China would lower cost of new cars for Canadians while keeping the tariffs up.
For privacy and security, not a single new car on the market is decent right now. That should be regulated, but that’s no concern for any politician at the moment.
themurphy@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Europe and its 50 car makers could also be considered instead of China…
matlag@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Yes, but Canada had implemented 100% tariff on cars from China, following the US. That’s pre-trade war. The proposal is to lift that one.
themurphy@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
Ah, I see. Thanks!
NightCrawlerProMax@lemmy.world 1 day ago
CCP has backdoor into every tech that comes out of China. It’s not about just privacy. They control democracies based on shaping narratives. They’ll utilize everything that democracy offers and use it against countries. They don’t have freedom of speech or press so they themselves are not victims of it. EVs are really just computers on the road. Flooding the market with Chinese EVs would just mean creating a massive free network on a foreign soil for them.
freely1333@reddthat.com 22 hours ago
As opposed to the teslas with the back doors for the us government… but will be moot when Canada is part of the states anyway
Malfeasant@lemm.ee 14 hours ago
All cars are computers on the road at this point, not just EVs…
NightCrawlerProMax@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
While technically true, that’s not what I meant. For example, Tesla Model 3 has AMD Ryzen chip. It is a full fledged computer CPU. Although my Toyota surely has a computer onboard, it’s nowhere close to this level of tech in the Tesla. EVs from China are at the same or higher level tech-wise compared to Teslas.
matlag@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Summary: China is not a friend country. It’s a hostile country. Yes, we know.
But the news is… so is the USA to Canada now. A hostile country threatening to annex Canada and trying to cripple the economy as a way to achieve the goal. So either we slap 100% tariffs on US made cars, which would hurt Canadians, or we apply the same tariffs on Chinese cars, so reduce them from where they are at the moment.
NightCrawlerProMax@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
All I meant was flooding the market with Chinese cars isn’t a huge security threat to the country. There’s another alternative. European cars.