Comment on Sergey Brin says AGI is within reach if Googlers work 60-hour weeks
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 2 days agoI want chocolate, I don’t eat chocolate, exercise of free will.
There’s a reason you don’t eat chocolate (health or weight gain probably) and you didn’t choose to become a person wanting to live a healthy life style - you just do. You can’t take credit for your ability to not eat chocolate any more than you can blame an alcoholic for their inability to not drink.
spicystraw@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I am curious to hear why you insist it’s inevitable. What intrinsic properties of the universe make you believe that we don’t have any choice and all our actions are set in stone?
10001110101@lemm.ee 2 days ago
For me. I think everything is physical, and there’s always a cause and effect. There is no magical non-physical consciousness. A combination of your genetics, experiences, and environment determine the “choices” you make/actions you take. Free will is an illusion, IMO.
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 2 days ago
What is inevitable? At no point have I claimed that our actions are set in stone. That would imply fatalism which equally suggest that things can happen without anything causing them to happen.
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Your choice of words is an analytical failure it says that the the will somehow sitting on top of all those processes rather than being a function of them.
spicystraw@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I don’t think my wording implies that the will is sitting on top of those processes, but rather that it’s an emergent property of them. You’re the one who’s implying a false dichotomy - just because our choices might be influenced by prior causes doesn’t mean we don’t have agency. I’m asking what makes you think our actions are predetermined, not what makes you think we have some kind of magical free will that defies causality. Can you actually address the question I asked, rather than nitpicking my phrasing?
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
What is agency
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 days ago
If your choices are a function of prior events and an emergent property of complex but deterministic processes where does agency come in? We are a complex deterministic process that simulates our own self to both predict a much more complex unconscious self and write rules to influence it going forward.
We call this process being conscious even when its writing just so stories after the fact.