Our universe is predeterministic. Block Universe (aka Eternalism).
Check mate.
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spicystraw@lemmy.world 5 weeks agoI want chocolate, I don’t eat chocolate, exercise of free will.
By your logic no alcoholic could possible stop drinking and become sober.
In my humble opinion, free will does not mean we are free of internal and external motivators, it means that we are free to either give in to them or go against.
semperverus@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
spicystraw@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It’s not according to quantum physics we observe
semperverus@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Seemingly “random” events can still be containerized in the crystalized time structure.
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
There’s a reason you don’t eat chocolate (health or weight gain probably) and you didn’t choose to become a person wanting to live a healthy life style - you just do. You can’t take credit for your ability to not eat chocolate any more than you can blame an alcoholic for their inability to not drink.
spicystraw@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I am curious to hear why you insist it’s inevitable. What intrinsic properties of the universe make you believe that we don’t have any choice and all our actions are set in stone?
10001110101@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
For me. I think everything is physical, and there’s always a cause and effect. There is no magical non-physical consciousness. A combination of your genetics, experiences, and environment determine the “choices” you make/actions you take. Free will is an illusion, IMO.
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
What is inevitable? At no point have I claimed that our actions are set in stone. That would imply fatalism which equally suggest that things can happen without anything causing them to happen.
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Your choice of words is an analytical failure it says that the the will somehow sitting on top of all those processes rather than being a function of them.
spicystraw@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I don’t think my wording implies that the will is sitting on top of those processes, but rather that it’s an emergent property of them. You’re the one who’s implying a false dichotomy - just because our choices might be influenced by prior causes doesn’t mean we don’t have agency. I’m asking what makes you think our actions are predetermined, not what makes you think we have some kind of magical free will that defies causality. Can you actually address the question I asked, rather than nitpicking my phrasing?