Comment on US fab construction costs twice as much, takes twice as long as Taiwan

• K1nsey6@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  1950 wants its tired anti china tropes back

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  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Noting that China has been almost universally hated for 75 years is actually the most anti-China post today, good job.

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• Eheran@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  What benefits and rights are that supposed to be?

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• FreakinSteve@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  What rights are these of which you speak?

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  • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Those with which you don’t have record suicide rates at workplace, probably, with workers jump out of windows, the solution to which was to put grids like in prison. Talking of Foxconn.

    I get it, people have it hard everywhere, but some have it harder, and between American and Chinese workers the relation is clear.

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    • CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      But America has a higher suicide raterate?

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      • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Compared to what? I didn’t name a specific country, but you can pick some and let us compare.

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    • FreakinSteve@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The difference is that Americans want rights destroyed.

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• chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  There’s a big cultural difference. Taiwanese workers, like Chinese, Korean, and Japanese workers as well, have a much higher tolerance for long work hours and less pay.

  All of these East Asian cultures have long-standing social norms against complaining and refusing to work hard. It’s a collectivist culture of work that puts the success of the company ahead of the individual’s interests. In return, companies tend to be loyal to workers so it’s very common to stay at one company for your whole career.

  We westerners used to have similar values back in the 1950s and earlier. That all changed during the counterculture.

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  • TheBeege@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I live in Korea. How do you define “loyal to workers?”

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• rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  You are correct, but people always want to believe their enemy’s enemy is their friend, and if their enemy is ideological, then that enemy’s enemy must be their ideological friend, and same with morality. That’s never so.

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• lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  You’re getting downvoted, but I work in the industry (GF, Intel, TI) and have heard horror stories from people who have worked on TSMC and even Samsung sites.

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• PanArab@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  “Right to work”

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