Ahh. The old hasbara strategy of pretending nothing happened before that. Nice.
I don’t know what that means tbh.
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The article and the relevant section from Wikipedia both describe how the talks failed on multiple issues, with one part being the refusal of giving security guarantees.
Speaking further and explaining Kyiv’s refusal to accept the proposal, Arakhamia said that it would require a constitutional change, given that Ukraine’s Constitution states its intention to become a NATO member.
Additionally, he emphasized a lack of trust in the Russian position.
“There is no, and there was no, trust in the Russians that they would do it. That could only be done if there were security guarantees.”
Arahamiya clarified that signing such an agreement without guarantees would have left Ukraine vulnerable to a second incursion.
I don’t know who Ukrainian official you mean, I quoted same person as your article did (Arahamiya/Arakhamia). In those links he isn’t confirming your take that “Boris Johnson (of all people) saying “shouldn’t sign anything with them at all – and let’s just fight” was their “Western handlers ordering them to fight””.
The Wikipedia article has links to the actual sources (new articles) who come back to the same things said in your linked article (from The European Conservative). It’s just that the article you linked gives a lot more weight to the Boris episode than many other sources or from what I’ve seen, Arahamiya/Arakhamia (their source) does himself.
The Wikipedia entry referencing news articles doesn’t mean much if the articles themselves are pushing western propaganda. Especially considering how many news agencies are (or were) on the payroll of USAID, I wouldn’t expect to see them challenge the NATO narrative.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I don’t know what that means tbh.
The article and the relevant section from Wikipedia both describe how the talks failed on multiple issues, with one part being the refusal of giving security guarantees.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 days ago
So you believe the Ukrainian officials confirming this are lying?
The Wikipedia entries are maintained by western propagandists. I wouldn’t put much faith in the credibility.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I don’t know who Ukrainian official you mean, I quoted same person as your article did (Arahamiya/Arakhamia). In those links he isn’t confirming your take that “Boris Johnson (of all people) saying “shouldn’t sign anything with them at all – and let’s just fight” was their “Western handlers ordering them to fight””.
The Wikipedia article has links to the actual sources (new articles) who come back to the same things said in your linked article (from The European Conservative). It’s just that the article you linked gives a lot more weight to the Boris episode than many other sources or from what I’ve seen, Arahamiya/Arakhamia (their source) does himself.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 days ago
The Wikipedia entry referencing news articles doesn’t mean much if the articles themselves are pushing western propaganda. Especially considering how many news agencies are (or were) on the payroll of USAID, I wouldn’t expect to see them challenge the NATO narrative.