Comment on Mexican President Threatens to Sue Google Over 'Gulf of America' Label on Maps.

Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• growsomethinggood@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  It shows up as “Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)” outside of the US apparently. That seems like enough to make a fuss to me; bodies of international water have specific rules around name changes and the US can’t unilaterally decide differently.

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  • orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    This is accurate. Here’s a screenshot from my friend in France.

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    • lunarul@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Ok, that’s absurd. I thought it makes sense to change the name in the US if that’s the official name in the US (according to the USGS data, which has always been the official source for this info). But translating the US name into other languages that already have a name for it makes no sense.

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      • orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Google is evil.

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    • KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I’m a mexican in mexico, my phone’s in japanese and it still shows as gulf of mexico Screenshot_20250213-202701_Maps

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      • orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Ha. I speak Spanish and Japanese. My girlfriend lives in Jilatopec. Sheinbaum está furiosa con Trump y me encanta.

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  • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    What are the rules? And who makes them?

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• lupusblackfur@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  If there existed any valid reasoning for the change… 🤷‍♂️ But the Felon Dicktater is only doing it so he can claim himself architect of global geographic change. Same reason he wants Greenland, Panama, Gaza, etc. Fuck that. I back Sheinbaum on this one. Won’t matter, but do it anyway.

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  • Pavidus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I’m thinking that there was a reason for the change; drilling for oil was blocked in the Gulf of Mexico.

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    • ShepherdPie@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      There are 3200 active wells in the Gulf of Mexico.

      www.ncei.noaa.gov/maps/gulf-data-atlas/atlas.htm?plate=Offshore%20Structures#:~:text=Since%20the%20first%20offshore%20drilling,of%20Mexico’s%20Outer%20Continental%20Shelf

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      • Pavidus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I’m aware. I’ve been there. Kinda hard to miss em.

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  • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    That’s a valid point, but why do you expect Google to take a principled stand on this? Take it up with your government.

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    • lupusblackfur@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      In the world I want to live in…

      Google would have taken a principled stand against such an attempt at a govt.

      Instead, they bent the knee along with every other Tech Oligarch and, therefore, deserve the hit.

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  • thefartographer@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Dicktater brought to mind very unpleasant images

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  • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    He wants to seize Greenland, Panama and Canada because they are either strategically important or have valuable resources, or both. This name change though is just because he hates Mexicans.

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  • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I hope that along with the next president’s EO (assuming we don’t have a dictator) to change the name back, it also changes the name of a tiny garbage parcel of land that’s uninhabitable due to lead or an old chemical spill to something like “greasy orange fief”.

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• lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  What else do people expect them to do?

  1.- Refuse-

  2.- Apply only the part of the name change that’s actually covered by US jurisdiction. The Gulf of Mexico extends noticeably beyond US’s borders.

  But hey this is Google we’re talking about.

  Besides, it still say Gulf of Mexico if you’re outside the USA.

  If I’m a eg.: Colombian, it should be “Gulf of Mexico” “Golfo de México” wherever I stand, not “Gulf of America”.

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  • catloaf@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Apply only the part of the name change that’s actually covered by US jurisdiction.

    Strictly speaking, per the EO, this is what they should have done. The EO defines the area to be renamed as:

    the U.S. Continental Shelf area bounded on the northeast, north, and northwest by the States of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida and extending to the seaward boundary with Mexico and Cuba in the area formerly named as the Gulf of Mexico

    You can see exactly where that seaward boundary is on this map: …wikimedia.org/…/File:US_ECS_Regions_2023.png

    The area described is less than half the whole Gulf of Mexico.

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  • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    OK, but how is Google supposed to know what nationality you are?

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    • lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Doesn’t need to (but yeah yeah they’re Google, I know…). They just should name it “Gulf of México” or whatever the translated name is to the user’s device, and add an asterisk somewhere that shows a note to the effect of “a small fraction of Confederate remnants think it should be called ‘Gulf of America’”.

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      • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        That is essentially what they’ve done by putting Gulf of America in brackets behind the original name.

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    • JustARaccoon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      IP address, same way they decide what language to show the names in

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      • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        That shows where you are, not who you are.

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• knightly@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  the government of the USA has changed the name

  When did they do that?

  Or are you one of those people who would agree if Trump said “I am the state”?

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  • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    It was changed by executive order, which the president has the authority to do. Google doesn’t get to go “nuh-uh” and keep it the same.

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    • knightly@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I was unaware that the executive branch encompassed the entirety of the government. Please, do elaborate.

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      • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        If you want to know more about how the US government works, I’m not the person to educate you.

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    • Breve@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Why didn’t they change it only in the US and not elsewhere? Could you imagine the uproar if Google censored Tiananmen Square world wide because of the Chinese government?

      PS: Yes it was modified for everyone outside the US too. I am not American but your “president” is now allowed to change what name I have to call something?

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      • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Because Google is a US company, and not in a position to tell the US government to take a walk, that’s why.

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    • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Executive orders are not laws. You do know that, right?

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