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• Eldritch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Communism is stateless and classless. How are STATES with authoritarian unanswerable leaders/classes in any way communist?

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  • kuato@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    On the unlikely chance that the question isn’t rhetodical, I’d suggest Michael Parenti’s Blackshirts and Reds.

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    • Eldritch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      It’s not rhetorical. ML, Leninism is called that because it literally isn’t communism. Otherwise they’d just call it communism. It’s a cunning master plan to build an economy capable of somehow transitioning to communism. How? Good question. Even the ideologies creators didn’t really explain it properly. It literally fits the 3 step meme.

      Step 1: slaughter everyone that disagrees with you.

      Step 2: ???

      Step 3: communism!

      My criticism of Leninism isn’t defense of anyone. As an anarchist I’m anti-authoritarian whether they’re liberal/leninist/maoist. You’re all a danger to yourselves and everyone else. Regardless of how much everyone despising each other or constant whataboutism. Under capitalism oligarchs buy our representation. Turn them against us. Putting the boot at our necks. Under leninism. The Vanguard party consolidates power. Killing or imprisoning anyone who is a threat no matter how small. And rewarding friends and family with wealth and power. All the while the boot at the throat of the proletariat they’re supposed to be serving. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. They all need to be torn down.

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      • btaf45@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Leninism is called that because it literally isn’t communism. Otherwise they’d just call it communism.

        They actually do just call it Communism. Few people call it Leninism.

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  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    TBF there are different types of communism. Marxist, Leninist, State, Libertarian, etc… I don’t know enough about how they all decided to become all these sub-genres, but my basic take is that there’s communism, the kind where workers have the power and the distribution of goods and wealth is shared among society; and then there’s the communism that we all know, the authoritarian regime that controls the classes and distribution of goods and wealth.

    Personally I think the latter shouldn’t be called communism at all, it’s a completely different animal than the original idea, but IMO conservative politics have so thoroughly conflated tyrannical state control with communism, along with Stalin’s\Lenin’s authoritarian brutality claiming to be communism, that the two will never be separated.

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    • Eldritch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Yes there are. Specifically I would be a libertarian-congress or an anarco-communist.

      However. Regardless of propaganda. One cannot be authoritarian. Or for a strong centralization of authority and State power. And actually be communist. They are conflicting goals. The workers cannot in any meaningful sense control the means of production. When they are oppressed by a dictatorial Vanguard. That imprisons/beats/slaughters any dissenters. The Vanguard owns the means of production in that scenario. They will still tell you that they are you. Even as they strangle and stomp on you. However it’s just a sick joke.

      Conversely, actual libertarianism. Left libertarianism. Especially the kind advocated for by the originator of libertarianism Dejacque, as well as anarchism. Are in near complete and total harmony with communism. The only rub being how absolute the call from Mutual Aid is and how voluntary it is. Both ideologies being heavily predicated on consent and freedom.

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  • btaf45@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Communism is stateless

    This is propaganda comparable to the GOP wanting “smaller government” rather than authoritarian Fascism.

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    • Eldritch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Well then please go edit wikipedia. As well as most political science and philosophy books. Because that’s literally how it’s defined. Actually they commonly go further classless stateless moneyless. But I digress. I’m not the one pushing GOP or FSB propaganda here.

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      • btaf45@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I’m not the one pushing GOP or FSB propaganda here.

        The point is that the GOP promised “smaller government” and delivered a big government proliferation of victimless crimes. Where do you think they got that con job propaganda from? Lenin did exactly the same thing but on an even bigger scale.

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• cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Well they’re more like Authoritarian “Communists”, the theory of communism doesn’t require human rights violations and restrictions of freedoms.

  But the only examples of communism in practice, and the only ones they praise and defend fervently, are places with authoritarian regimes like China.

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

  Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical. It is commonly used by anti-authoritarian leftists, including anarchists, libertarian socialists, left communists, democratic socialists, and reformists to criticise Leninism, although the term has seen increasing use by liberal and right‐wing factions as well.

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  • shortrounddev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    the theory of communism doesn’t require human rights violations and restrictions of freedoms

    Communism is a political ideology predicated on murdering a group of political enemies in the name of a pseudoscientific economic theory which is given the same reverence that Catholics do to church dogma. Communism is, and always has been, a cult.

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    • VinesNFluff@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Ok neolib .

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      • shortrounddev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Eloquent in your brevity

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    • Belgdore@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Whoever told you that had an agenda.

      First, communism is an economic theory. A very stripped down version of the theory is this: It proposes that the rich have obtained their wealth through the exploitation of workers. They justify the exploitation by “owning” the raw materials, tools, factories, land, and other apparatuses that the workers need to produce things. But without workers those things could not be converted or used to convert raw materials into goods. The theory suggests that the workers should own those things instead of the rich people. The idea is that the workers would then share amongst each other because, being of the same class, they are naturally more likely to care about the needs of the others in that class. Whatever your opinion or critique of this general idea, it is an idea not a cult.

      Like all theories that have some level of popularity it has a lot of variations and sub theories. Some are more idealistic than others. These factions have a lot of history with one another a review of the Russian revolution and lead up show the kind of factionalism that exists with the movement. If you study revolutions you know that this is common.

      Second, people have used virtually any ideal to justify atrocities. We should not throw out an idea only because someone somewhere used it to justify violence.

      Third dogma is a problem. It is used in communist communities in the same way that it is used in the Catholic Church, to try and prevent descension. As noted above communist movements tend to have a lot of factions but the one that gains the most traction always tries to force the others into line. This is common wherever there are new ideas being implemented as policy.

      This is likely why people think communism is intent on murdering its enemies. However, every revolution, Russian, French, Haitian, United States, etc. used violence and murder to achieve its goal.

      Communists also say that capitalism murders people every day, and they die with a smile on their face. A pittance of a paycheck goes in their widow’s purse while they have died without realizing that they were exploited to death.

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      • btaf45@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        However, every revolution, Russian, French, Haitian, United States, etc. used violence and murder to achieve its goal.

        This is a ridiculous false equivalence.

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      • shortrounddev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Socialism is the theory that workers should own the means of production. Communism is the theory that the workers should massacre the owners in order to get them. While socialism describes an ideal state of society, communism is explicitly a program for mass murder to achieve a much more vague definition of an ideal society. That is why, after establishing a communist state, communist governments continue to seek out and purge or murder heretics against the Marxist-Leninist state ideology (or “Mao Zedong thought”). Communism is not a theory, as dialectical materialism likes to pretend it is. At its best, communism is a political cult that attract white middle class college freshman. At its worst, communism is a state religion with all the inquisitions and mass murder and auto-genocide that comes with that.

        Communism is unintelligible without perceived enemies of the working class. This was not a perversion by Lenin or Stalin; this is baked into the DNA of the writings of Marx, who dedicated a few thousand pages to misdescribing the economics of capitalism and his fantasies for mass murder, but comparatively few pages describing what the end result of that revolution looks like.

        I can intellectually respect a Socialist who is convinced that the world would be better if all companies were worker coops, or if all business were regulated by state councils of proletarian soviets. I do not respect anybody claiming to be a communist in precisely the same way that I don’t respect anyone claiming to be a Nazi; they are equally evil and murderous ideologies that are responsible for tens if not over a hundred million deaths throughout the 20th century. Anybody who endorses this ideology in the 21st century is as low as a fucking neo-Nazi

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• shortrounddev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Whats wrong with SAO

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  • Smokeydope@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Its generic slop by anime standards. Like yeah anime is meant for teenagers and young adults so you can’t be too critical over fanservice or flat YA novel Gary sue tier character writing or forgetting to write an actually compelling reason for the villian trapping them in the digital world by he time its over.

    Anime in general is not meant to be high art but SAO goes the extra mile to be uninteresting bland slop that appeals to the lowest common denominator. The isekai genre has done a lot better over the decade since SAO initially released things like rezero blow it out if the water in terms of actually interesting plot and suspense.

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    • Krompus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      💀

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  • VinesNFluff@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Trash.

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