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WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

The courts need to start deputizing large numbers of bailiffs to enforce their orders. Forget relying on funding from Congress for it; I’m sure they’ll have plenty of volunteers. Musk and his goons refuse to comply with court orders? Haul them into court at the point of a bayonet. I’m sure you’ll have no shortage of patriotic Americans also willing to donate weapons to arm these new bailiffs.

The courts need to seriously build out their capacity to enforce orders independent of the executive branch. They need muscle.

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Jerkface@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

Today, the primary responsibilities of

U.S. Marshals include protecting federal judges and witnesses,

transporting federal prisoners, apprehending federal fugitives, and

managing assets seized from criminal enterprises.

Oh, sweet.

The

President, with the advice and consent of the Senate, appoints U.S.

Marshals for a 4-year term.

Oh. Oh no.

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- WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Exactly. That’s why my point is that there may be other mechanisms for courts to deputize or recruit people to serve as enforcers for the court.
  
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JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Whoa now, that’s a bit reactionary.

The reason for the shit show is that it’s all based on good faith. And if a power hungry dictator tries to control the executive…well, the legislative is supposed to keep him in check.

It’s also based on the presumption that the people wouldn’t willingly elect, let alone re-elect, a blatantly corrupt president and Congress that enables them…or at least have few enough bad ones to be able to break party lines and put a stop to it.

Ideally, enough Republicans on Congress would have enough of a spine to actually put country before party and stop this shit. Start impeaching judges and presidents. Don’t let anything else get done.

Nope. They all sold out on their party. Fucking despicable. Not even worth spitting on.

I can’t wait till someone spills the beans on whatever kompromat or bribes or imperius curse has got such a tight grip on the party.

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- CommissarVulpin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  I came to a bit of a realization. Every time you think of some possible new government function, or legislation, or resolution to an issue, you cynically think of every way it could be abused, right? You’re confident that greedy, self-aggrandizing politicians or businessmen will use it to further their own power and wealth. The concept that someone will act in good faith is absent. It’s infantile, it’s naive. The world is cruel.
  
  I think this represents a fundamental breakdown of the trust in our government. The US has been coasting on good faith for almost 300 years, and the wheels are falling off. It’s a vicious cycle, where if you don’t trust that other people will do the right thing, you’re less likely to do the right thing yourself. I don’t know if this cycle can be ended, or even if it has an end.
  
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- Saleh@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  The Legislative and Judiciary can only keep the Executive in check, if the people with guns in the Executive are willing to listen to them, rather than the superiors giving them orders.
  
  You have “Legislatives” in dictatorships too. but when they refuse to obey the military any longer, they either get disappeared, get a sham process over something they allegedly did, or at best you get a civil war.
  
  Or how Cersay Lannister said in Game of Thrones: “Power is Power”. When push comes to shove, the question is who do the people with guns listen to. Everything around it is just fluff. Unless large parts of the Military and Police defect and take care of their superior and then hand power back to the normal institutions, or there is a peoples uprising and subsequent civil war, the power will not go back.
  
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  - Kitathalla@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    
    Cersei
    
    Power is power
    
    Personally, I love hearing that from a skeleton with a wicked crown, so let me just show you the fella (the author, because everyone gets a turn to talk like this) who can make peter parker look downright mime-like.
    
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  - JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    The legislative holds the power to impeach presidents and judges.
    
    But that’ll only happen if enough Republicans grow a spine.
    
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    Saleh@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    They have the power, if and only if the Police and Army are listening to them based on this being what the laws say.
    
    With Adams in New York we already see an example, how to create a layer of corrupt loyalists that could tell the police to act differently.
    
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