Comment on Microsoft Study Finds AI Makes Human Cognition “Atrophied and Unprepared”

Zexks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• chobeat@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  yeah and it does harm. Any technology amputated a part of us. The point is deciding if it’s worth the cost.

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• kryptonidas@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I think AI so far is detrimental to society.

  • It made it too easy to flood the world with bullshit.

  • Also it will make tracking peoples behaviors much easier while keeping plausible deniability on levels that past horrible regimes could only dream about.

  • It will be used to make replacing workers more easy.

  • It is being used to deny more healthcare (eg Luigie’s case)

  Pro’s

  • Can be used for good (eg in the medical field) by finding issues sooner and making better cures

  • Using AI to actually learn though is a great tool.

  • Other scientific advancements

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  All in all I think it with social media is one of the biggest reasons the US is in the state it is.

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  • trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So the pros are

    • thing we have no way of knowing how it works, therefore no way of relying on it
    • thing that helps you do something you then have to do anyway by yourself (if you want to learn something from generative model output you still need to fact check it)
    • vague promise it will lead to anything useful in the future

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    • kryptonidas@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You don’t always have to know how it works to rely on it. Most people could not tell you how a computer works but they are able to do better work.

      We can verify that it’s better in some tasks than people. E.g give doctors and the AI 1000 MRI scans of potential cancer patients and it can determine it more accurate than doctors. So there they already are a help.

      It’s already used in advancing different fields, for example reading texts of ancient burned scrolls without opening the scroll since that would break them.

      theguardian.com/…/ai-helps-researchers-read-ancie…

      But also medicine creation etc.

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      • trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You don’t always have to know how it works to rely on it. Most people could not tell you how a computer works but they are able to do better work.

        We can verify that it’s better in some tasks than people. E.g give doctors and the AI 1000 MRI scans of potential cancer patients and it can determine it more accurate than doctors. So there they already are a help.

        I’d really prefer if my doctor knew why they say I have cancer!

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• electricyarn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  About writing?! Surely you have zero evidence for that.

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  • tjsauce@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Oh haha cause it wouldn’t be recorded

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• zeca@lemmy.eco.br ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  but are they wrong though?

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  • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Memorization used to be a huge part of education hundreds of years ago before books were common. It’s the origin of oral defence for doctorates. That excluded a huge part of the population who were great at logic and analysis.

    Books became a bicycle for the brain. Imo, AI is the same. Skills such as structuring sentences into perfectly grammatically correct forms will atrophy in exchange for the focus to be on the idea.

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    • trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Books became a bicycle for the brain. Imo, AI is the same. Skills such as structuring sentences into perfectly grammatically correct forms will atrophy in exchange for the focus to be on the idea.

      “In the future all our thoughts will be filtered through phone keyboard next word suggestion, and this is a good thing!”

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    • zeca@lemmy.eco.br ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      i think that being used to properly structure sentences is important for reasoning well.

      i agree that the effects of books and writing were probably beneficial to the brain, although they might have atrophied the memory and something else. But im not sure about tv, radio, internet and AI.

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      • thesohoriots@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Ehhh yes and no. There’s prescriptive grammar (how it ought to be) and descriptive grammar (how it’s actually used within communities). This is where the ideas of code switching and such come in. You can certainly reason well in a Creole, if that’s what your community speaks and how you are taught, e.g. Belizean Creole.

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      • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The majority of grammar rules are arbitrary and unrelated to the expression of an idea. For example, does it really matter if you treat an inanimate object like a pencil as feminine or masculine? It’s an object. Yet in Spanish/French/etc., there are grammar rules that define every inanimate object as being either feminine or masculine.

        However, without a common grammar, it’s impossible to communicate accurately. For that use case, AI functions as a language translator.

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    • RadicalEagle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Without appropriate structure will we be able to effectively communicate ideas?

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      • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The AI will make sense of our terrible grammar.

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  • Lexam@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Uh I don’t know.

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