People around me will cheer for this since they are not working in the programming industry
I don’t know how you can say this when programming is one of the best uses for AI
Comment on French President Emmanuel Macron announces €100 billion investments in AI
heavydust@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
My taxes at work to fund shitty generators. People around me will cheer for this since they are not working in the programming industry and don’t know how it’s yet another way to lower the quality of all that we’ve done so far. We’re fucked.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 week ago
jonne@infosec.pub 1 week ago
Eh, copilot is still more miss than hit whenever I use it. It’s probably equally dogshit for other uses as well unless your goal is to just generate bullshit.
independantiste@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Heh for me even the newest models like the new Claude are only really useful when I did the thinking and the initial code writing, and i ask it to simplify it or to make it use more efficient libraries/features. Because when asking it to do my work it produces shit, and im very junior level
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 week ago
yeah it’s definitely an assistant not a cheap developer, of is it :O
Devin just came to take your software job… will code for $8/hr www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhIm-Dk1pzk
independantiste@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
I know it can’t take my job because I tried to make it do my job. Spoiler, it can’t. And that’s because most jobs aren’t doing things that have been done so often that Claude has an example in its training data set. If your job is that basic then yes, an AI will take it from you. Most of the programming job is actually solving a problem within the context of the codebase, not the coding itself. I am working with old and archaic technology from the 60s to the 90s and let me tell you, using the official doc is way more factual than asking any AI model about information because it will start spewing bullshit after the second prompt
IAMHEREDOTDOTDOTNOW@lemm.ee 1 week ago
A lot of comments in that YouTube thread for Devin are not positive.
Enoril@jlai.lu 1 week ago
Sorry but no.
It’s good when what you are trying to do has been done in the past by thousand of people (thanks to the free training data). But it’s really bad for new use case. After all it’s a glorified and expensive auto-complete tool trained on code they parsed. It’s not magic, it’s math.
But you don’t get intelligence, creativity from these tools. It’s math! Math is the least creative domain on earth. Since when being a programmer is just typing portion of code from boilerplate / examples from internet?
It’s the logical thinking, taking into account all the parameters and constraints, breaking problems into piece of code, checking it, testing it, deploying it, supporting it.
Ok, programming goal is to solve a problem. But usually not all the parameters of the problem can be reduced to its mathematical form.
IA are far from being able to do that and the ratio gain/cost is not proven at all. These companies are so committed to AI (in term of money invested) that THEY MUST make you use their AI, whatever it’s quality. They even use a marketing term to hide their product bad answer: hallucinations. Hallucination is just a fancy word to not say: totally wrong.
Do you find normal to buy a solution that never produces 100% good results (more around 20% of failure)?
In my industry, this IA trend (pushed mainly from managers not knowing what really is programming and of course “AI”) generate a lot of bad quality code from our junior devs. And it’s not something i want to push in production.
In fact, a lot of PoC around ML never goes from the R&D phase to the real production. It’s too risky for the business (as human life could be impacted).
heavydust@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Every time I try to use it it hallucinates bugs. It’s a waste of time for me.
mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 week ago
It will be private investment, venture capitalists, that provide the money and extract the data and wealth. All Macron is doing is giving it the official seal of approval from the government. He might relax some rules and make it easier to invest but your tax Euros are safe.