Comment on Hexbear federation megathread
GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 year agoimagine i vandalize jewish graveyard, put swastikas all over the place and my defense is “man, swastikas were used all around the word through history, they don’t just belong to nazi germany, you know?”
This is a bizarre and perhaps manipulative comparison. What is the Jewish graveyard in this context? Because the vandalizing a Jewish graveyard part does a lot to provide context to the action in your hypothetical where you provide no such context for the hammer and sickle’s use.
Furthermore, it’s a bizarre comparison because most of us are white or Hispanic rather than Indian (being a mostly American website), which means that we generally have no connection to the swastika in its original use but some connection to the Nazi use, whereas the uses of the hammer and sickle by other parties in Europe, Latin America, tbe US, and elsewhere are ones that we could plausibly have actual connections to.
Mind you, I disagree with the equating of the hammer and sickle to the swastika to start with, I think it’s a disgusting “both sides”-ing that Nazi sympathizers love to promote. I just also dislike faulty arguments.
14th_cylon@lemm.ee 1 year ago
here is your context. your comrades advocating for class war and killing people for crime of having more money than you
i have no idea how you had arrived to this conclusion or why you think it is relevant
i live in a country that was under both nazi and russian occupation. people were killed in the name of swastika. and later people were killed in the name hammer and sickle. they were shot on the borders for the crime of attempting to leave the communist paradise and there kids wouldn’t be allowed to school for not having correct political profile.
so trust me, we have quite strong “actual connection” here. just because you are uneducated american, doesn’t mean that everyone else is.
you are right, it is nor really fair to nazis, who killed measly 17 million people, compared to impressive 100 million killed by communists.
en.wikipedia.org/…/The_Black_Book_of_Communism statista.com/…/number-of-victims-nazi-regime/
you are on my blocklist now, so don’t bother with another pile of your communist bullshit, i am not interested.
Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Using the same methods of counting excess deaths, the British empire killed 1.8 billion. mronline.org/…/britain-robbed-india-of-45-trillio…
14th_cylon@lemm.ee 1 year ago
www.statista.com/…/population-india-historical/ www.google.com/search?q=victims+of+british+occupa…
JackBruh@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Communism killed 100 million in Europe alone and 300-400 million in China. Count other parts of the world and the number easily reaches a billion.
Your source comes from some random Indian guy who knows nothing about history. Provide me a source from actually truthful western media or your information is false.
barrbaric@hexbear.net 1 year ago
What’s your source for this? Where did the other 500 million people die due to communism outside of the USSR and China? Did Fidel Castro kill every person in Cuba 50 times?
Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 1 year ago
bro we got new numbers omg
are we actually going to achieve a trillion one day?
uSSRI@hexbear.net 1 year ago
“Some random Indian guy” is literally a doctorate economist (I know, but still you should eat that up since I’m assuming you love capitalism and “free markets”)
GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 1 year ago
fucking westoid chauvinist
BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 1 year ago
lol @ ”Warrior of Ukraine”, bravely posting on lemmy instead of being torn to pieces by Russian artillery.
HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 1 year ago
big-honk and how did they get that money? honk-enraged How did they get the fucking money mf? honk
GoodEye8@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Your post is a pretty good example of what I don’t like about Hexbear (and also Lemmygrad because they do the same shit). Clearly the other person has a misconception. It’s a chance to educate people on what the class conflict between proletariat and bourgeoisie actually is (spoiler, it’s not about money). And what do you do instead? Antagonizing trolling to completely shut the door on having any constructive discussion, while also misrepresenting class conflict thus perpetuating the same original misconception. I literally cannot think of a worse response than the one you gave. You’ve done an absolute disservice to the very ideology you follow.
AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 1 year ago
If you can’t get over minor shit like this light ribbing then maybe you should enclose yourself in a bubble. And I mean literal bubble wrap.
Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 1 year ago
whats it about then
big-bill WHATS IT ABOUT THEN
Antiwork@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Fuck educating nazis/nazi sympathizers. Just find a wall and have them face it.
uralsolo@hexbear.net 1 year ago
lmao you’re a black book guy? To think I felt bad and deleted my comment.
Landlords, kulaks, Nazis collaborators etc are not ethnic groups, they are groups of people who have explicitly chosen to do something that is incredibly harmful to others, often thousands or millions of others. Saying that they deserve to die is no different than saying that someone who commits a murder does, it’s just that our society has conditioned you into thinking that the terrible things wrought by capitalists are “normal”.
14th_cylon@lemm.ee 1 year ago
you are a communist, are you sure you are the one to judge someone? 🤣
uralsolo@hexbear.net 1 year ago
The black book of communism is one of the most hokey and widely debunked pieces of sloppy anticommunist propaganda ever made. You would know this if you had ever interrogated your sources even a minuscule amount.
AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Starting to think your name isn’t a Battlestar reference
Mindfury@hexbear.net 1 year ago
reported for absolutely disgusting Holocaust minimisation, jesus christ
14th_cylon@lemm.ee 1 year ago
shut up and go back to north korea, comrade
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 year ago
GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Oh, gotcha. Your family deserved it.