Comment on Will online only "Device Activation" become the norm for every device in the future? / Will everything require an app in the future?

• andrewta@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I would disagree. If I just don’t buy anything and don’t say anything, you’re right that’s not voting. But if I go into just for example, a car dealership, I noticed that all the cars have subscription fees on them and then I tell the general manager that the reason I’m not buying is because of the subscription fee. That is voting.

  The same goes for a stereo receiver. If I walk into Best Buy to buy one, and I noticed they’ll have subscription fees, and I tell the general manager of Best Buy that I’m not buying because of this that is voting.

  If I call up Denon or Yamaha or or one of the other companies I say hey do you have a receiver that doesn’t have a subscription? And then they tell me no theyall do I tell them well then I just won’t buy any of them that is voting.

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  • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If I call up Denon or Yamaha or or one of the other companies I say hey do you have a receiver that doesn’t have a subscription? And then they tell me no theyall do I tell them well then I just won’t buy any of them that is voting.

    rofl

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    • andrewta@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You laugh, but as a business owner, if I have people tell me they won’t buy because of x, and i am watching customer after customer walk out empty handed… I’d be an idiot to not fix the problem.

      So how is that not voting?

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      • jacksilver@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There are a couple of problems with this logic and it’s why regulations are critical to a functioning world.

        1. Frequently people need something today(ish) and don’t have the luxury to wait. Food is a great example, but depending on the person/entity most things can end up being urgent (like I need a laptop today for work/school)
        2. No one knows the ins/outs of every industry. While Lemmys more technical users can see the issues with so many accounta/subscriptions, that doesn’t mean the general public does.

        Its certainly more nuanced than that, but that’s just a quick breakdown of the challenges of voting with your wallet.

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      • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Are you a giant multinational corporation?

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• andrewta@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Sort of true.

  Ex: my dvd player broke and the only replacement is an always on player worth a subscription fee. Do I really have to have a new player? No

  Can I go do something other than watching movies? Yes

  Is it going to mean I’m going to be homeless or lose my job of I don’t have one? No

  Then leave it on the shelf.

  Microwave: do I need to have one? No. We went for thousands of years without one. Leave it on until shelf.

  Alarm clock… go to a pawn shop and find one that is older. There is no reason to buy one with a subscription fee. Your grandma might have an old mechanical one. Leave it on the shelf

  Refrigerator might be a hard one to get around, but look for one without the sub fee or the always on concept.

  Stereo receiver look for an older one or go without. Leave it on the shelf. If there is a subscription fee leave it

  Ask yourself: is there a way around not having it. If there is then go without if needed.

  TV breaks: well if they all have subscription fees then say f it and done buy a new one.

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  • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Choosing not to buy anything at all isn’t voting with your wallet, because you didn’t vote for something else.

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    • otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This isn’t a democracy where a company can win if it only has a single buyer.

      If the company in question doesn’t get your money, you’ve “voted against them with your wallet”.

      You might be getting caught up in the literal semantics of the metaphor.

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