andrewta@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Yes but ONLY because people keep buying the shit. People vote with their wallets. If people would stop buying it companies would stop doing it.
andrewta@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Yes but ONLY because people keep buying the shit. People vote with their wallets. If people would stop buying it companies would stop doing it.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Voting with your wallet is still limited to the available options.
andrewta@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I would disagree. If I just don’t buy anything and don’t say anything, you’re right that’s not voting. But if I go into just for example, a car dealership, I noticed that all the cars have subscription fees on them and then I tell the general manager that the reason I’m not buying is because of the subscription fee. That is voting.
The same goes for a stereo receiver. If I walk into Best Buy to buy one, and I noticed they’ll have subscription fees, and I tell the general manager of Best Buy that I’m not buying because of this that is voting.
If I call up Denon or Yamaha or or one of the other companies I say hey do you have a receiver that doesn’t have a subscription? And then they tell me no theyall do I tell them well then I just won’t buy any of them that is voting.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
rofl
andrewta@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
You laugh, but as a business owner, if I have people tell me they won’t buy because of x, and i am watching customer after customer walk out empty handed… I’d be an idiot to not fix the problem.
So how is that not voting?
andrewta@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Sort of true.
Ex: my dvd player broke and the only replacement is an always on player worth a subscription fee. Do I really have to have a new player? No
Can I go do something other than watching movies? Yes
Is it going to mean I’m going to be homeless or lose my job of I don’t have one? No
Then leave it on the shelf.
Microwave: do I need to have one? No. We went for thousands of years without one. Leave it on until shelf.
Alarm clock… go to a pawn shop and find one that is older. There is no reason to buy one with a subscription fee. Your grandma might have an old mechanical one. Leave it on the shelf
Refrigerator might be a hard one to get around, but look for one without the sub fee or the always on concept.
Stereo receiver look for an older one or go without. Leave it on the shelf. If there is a subscription fee leave it
Ask yourself: is there a way around not having it. If there is then go without if needed.
TV breaks: well if they all have subscription fees then say f it and done buy a new one.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Choosing not to buy anything at all isn’t voting with your wallet, because you didn’t vote for something else.
otp@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
This isn’t a democracy where a company can win if it only has a single buyer.
If the company in question doesn’t get your money, you’ve “voted against them with your wallet”.
You might be getting caught up in the literal semantics of the metaphor.