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Comment on Emojiis are hieroglyphics
sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
If you exclude ‘emojis’ which are literally just picture forms of characters in existing languages:
Technically, they’re pictoglyphs, not hieroglyphs.
Emojis represent the literal thing they portray (pictogram), the word associated with that literal thing (logogram), and, to varying degrees to different people, represent other related concepts and associated ideas (ideogram).
Hieroglyphs do all of that, but additionally also represent spoken syllables and alphabetic characters, and follow a concrete syntax amd grammar system that allows for a much more extensive vocabulary, and more complex sentence structures than emojis, which have far more certain and unambiguous meanings.
Basically, hieroglyphs constitute an actual language, purely using emojis is playing pictionary as a means of communication.
xavier666@lemm.ee 15 hours ago
yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 4 hours ago
Don’t you mean 👆🤓?
sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 14 hours ago
𓋹𓍑𓋴
nailbar@sopuli.xyz 14 hours ago
What does that say? I don’t read ancient foreign.
sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 13 hours ago
xavier666@lemm.ee 11 hours ago
Wait, let me consult my pocket ASCII chart to check if I’ve been insulted.
Okay, I tried it but didn’t work. 𓋴 is translated to S or Z. But others didn’t work. Both charmap and online failed.
shneancy@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Ankh wedja seneb (𓋹𓍑𓋴 ꜥnḫ wḏꜢ snb) is an Egyptian phrase which often appears after the names of pharaohs, in references to their household, or at the ends of letters. The formula consists of three Egyptian hieroglyphs without clarification of pronunciation, making its exact grammatical form difficult to reconstruct. It may be expressed as “life, prosperity, and health”, but Alan Gardiner proposed that they represented verbs in the stative form:[citation needed] “Be alive, strong, and healthy”.
from wikipedia
sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
There basically are no proper Hieroglyph to English translators online.
There are only trans literators.
So, they only really work for representing a name in hieroglyphic, or visa versa.
In this instance, the 3 characters are not to be interpreted as letters or syllables, but as concepts that each character embodies.
As shneancy has explained:
These characters are often found together after pharoah’s personal and family/house names in inscriptions and stelle.
With what little, extremely little I know of actual hieroglyphic grammar, it seems that a ‘phrase’ like this at the end of a sentence or name basically modifies the subject of the sentence, in a permanent, essential sense.
Hierogylphic grammar is still not perfectly understood though… its not exactly clear how the exact phrasing would work.
So it could mean something like:
'May (subject) have everlasting life, unyielding strength, and forever be in good health."
Or it may also be declaritive:
‘The immortal, omnipotent and robust (subject).’
… basically I’m trying to say ‘have a doubleplus good one’ or ‘live long and prosper’ in hieroglyphic, but i fucked up the grammar by not putting your name in hieroglyphs inside a royal cartouche for maximum praise and respect, haha.
Sadly I don’t think unicode supports drawing a cartouche around a set of glyphs, haha.
shneancy@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
hll👋
hll👋
brs🍻🍺?
tm⏰️?
19:00☀️🌙
hm🏠?
rhm🫵🏠
dl🤝
dl🤝
fixed it
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
🍑🍆 <- ideograms?
sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 13 hours ago
You got it!
A pictoglyph being used to represent something associated with the actual thing being represented, falls under ideogram.
But when your grandma sends a shopping list to you in emoji form, she probably means it as a pictogram.
… Hopefully.