Comment on If the democrats executed the same fake electors scheme trump tried to execute, wouldn't Republican opposition be admission of trumps guilt?

• WoahWoah@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The problem is that the democrats are playing the game called “democracy.” The Republicans stopped following the rules of the game because they don’t want to play it anymore. If the Democrats do what the Republicans do, then the game is no longer be played. You can’t really give up on democracy and then bring it back. It rarely ever works that way.

  If you cede the ground of democratic norms, rules, and policies just to win, you ultimately lose because you no longer have a democracy. In many respects, getting the Democrats to start doing the same thing is precisely what the Republicans want. Because that means they can finish burying democracy, and they’re better positioned to win the game called “fascism.”

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  • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The board is set. The dems can pretend democracy as usual but it will all be fruitless. Nowadays the time to peel back any remaining facade of the america we once knew and go toe to toe with the fascist take over. The long we wait the deeper they will burrow into the heart of this nations government and one morning you’ll just wake up living in a fascist regime.

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    • WoahWoah@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You can’t beat fascism with fascism.

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      • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Fascism won. The democrats proved they can’t beat fascism, period.

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  • Scubus@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yeah, but as this election showed, people cant be trusted. Theres no need to try and preserve our “democracy” because our democracy led to this. Instead, democrats just need to take over via any means neccassary.

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    • WoahWoah@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Sounds like a brilliant plan. “They’re being fascist so we have to be fascist!” has worked so well in history.

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      • Scubus@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Yep. Pretty simple. As evidenced, humans wont do that ght unless they are forced to do right. Glad to see you understand so well.

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• Lauchs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You want them to simultaneously seem like hypocritez AND idiots?

  To what end? Funsies?

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  • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They would be exposing the hypocrites. They already look look like fucking morons for losing to trump, again, do not much to salvage there. Tell me any American could not miss the message when democrats stop the confirmation, roll out their own fake electors, and confirm kamala herself. Hell, have biden make it an official act because why not? Any person to object to it could not be totally lost on them this is exactly what Trump attempted to do.

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    • Lauchs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      it would just stir the pot so brilliantly

      Lol, no.

      The world doesn’t work like this.

      Who would get fired up who wasn’t already on side? Independents or those on the fence would just note that the Democrats were pulling the same nonsense they just spent four years crying fascism about. Right wingers would just see confirmation that the rules don’t matter. On the Left, the adults among us would see this as a stupid, hypocritical temper tantrum with no possibility of success and a further erosion of democratic norms.

      This would be super unhelpful.

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      • Scubus@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        independants or those on the fence would just note that the democrats were pulling the same nonsense

        Yeah, and they fucked our country so fuck them. If you were “on the fence” about this election then you simply dont desrve voting rights. Your opinion does not matter anymore.

        Right wingers would just see it as confirmation that the rules dont matter

        Cool, nothing changes.

        On the left, the adults would see this as stupid, hypocritical temper tantrum

        Ah yes, the adults who have gotten so much done with the erosion of our democracy since 2016. Bruh fuck “the adults” too, you guys failed us. Get out of the way and let actual progress happen instead of considering maybe possibly giving ukraine a little bit of funding but definitely giving isreal nukes to use on civs.

        You people who want to work within the law while republicans consistently evade it are at best a waste of space. As worst, you are actively convincing people to simply pretend the issues are going to solve themselves, cause god knows you and your party wont.

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      • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I disagree entirely. I would see the GOP get a taste of their own medicine and the DNC not be pussy bitches too afraid to serve it. Like it or not, your measured, “adult in the room” shit isn’t working and most people just feel condescending too. It’s of little consequence because what you have yet to accept is the door is shut already and this sissy fit would be honestly the last opportunity for the left to do something.

        They won’t.

        They’re punk ass butches.

        Just like you.

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    • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      They would be exposing the hypocrites

      Exposing hypocrites never brings any real gain, only an opportunity to get upset.

      Now please don’t get me wrong: getting upset might be worth it for many, many people. Getting upset is one of the highest valued things in our time.

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